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Discussion in 'General Political Discussion' started by brainstormer, Oct 12, 2020.

  1. Caliban

    Caliban Well-Known Member

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    Yes, sarcasm is difficult to identify at times.
    Poe's Law
     
  2. Hans Blaster

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    It's very hard to quote posts with nothing written in them. I learned something new about the mechanics of this forum.
     
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  3. Speedwell

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    In other words, this is not a Christian nation even though some people think it is.
     
  4. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Was this sarcasm too?:

    If not, then why didn't I get a straight answer?

     
  5. Hans Blaster

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    I don't know why you are (repeatedly) asking this question.

    American students are inundated with Christianity just by being in America. As are we all.
     
  6. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    I asked again because it seems that I received a sarcastic answer.

    Your reply still doesn't answer the question. Simply saying that it's so, doesn't explain how. Let alone proving it to be true.
     
  7. Hans Blaster

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    I mean, do we really need to present much of a case that Christianity is all around us in America? It's everywhere and soaked deep into our culture.
     
  8. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    "We" have yet to present a case.

    "Inundated" is a strong term. It deserves a strong case.
     
  9. Caliban

    Caliban Well-Known Member

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    Ask a direct question and I will give you a direct answer. What is the question?
     
  10. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    I'll ask again for the third time.

    How are American students inundated with Christianity?

    You made the assertion.

    I don't know how I can be any more direct.
     
  11. Caliban

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    American children grow up in a cultural environment where Christianity is nearly ubiquitous. Most grow up familiar with the teachings of Christianity; their friends are Christians and usually, their parents teach them to believe. We don't need to teach them what they already experience in the culture. However, if a school wanted to have a class that read and studied the Bible as a literary text--that would be find. Just so long as it is not taught as representing truth or as authoritative.
     
  12. HARK!

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    So is Mathematics.

    Not all grow up in that environment. Of the ones who do; how are they all "inundated with Christianity?" What are the details?

    Not all of them experience it, not even Mathematics.

    Really? I was reading my Bible during a free period in High School. That time was spent in a classroom under the supervision of a teacher. The teacher told me to put my Bible in my book bag, and to never let him see it again.

    Can you show me the law that allows the Bible to be taught as a literary text?

    I spent an entire semester of English devoted to Shakespeare's works. It was dark and demonic. At a time that the government was attempting to ban dark demonic heavy metal music; I was being forced to read this trash.

    I would have much rather spent that semester on books of the Bible.
     
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  13. Caliban

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    But they need math to work and be successful. A student does not need religion for that.

    Of course not all do--most do. They can go to church to learn about the Bible from an insiders perspective.

    That sucks--sounds like you had a highly biased teacher who should know better.


    The following is an excerpt from the AASA




    Key Court Ruling
    The Constitution does allow some religious expression in public schools — perhaps more than most people think. While classroom instruction or school-directed activities that favor one religion over another are clearly unconstitutional, students are allowed to quietly pursue their beliefs on their own by meeting voluntarily in religious clubs or saying grace before lunch, for example.

    In a 1963 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a Pennsylvania law requiring schools to have daily Bible readings and recitation of the Lord’s Prayer. But it did not ban the Bible from classrooms. In fact, the court noted “it might well be said that one’s education is not complete without a study of comparative religion or the history of religion and its relationship to the advancement of civilization.”

    Even so, Peg Hill, director of the California Three Rs Project, a First Amendment and religious freedom education organization, says for a time after the 1963 ruling, many schools avoided any discussion of religion — to a fault. As she points out, religion often has been a key driver of historical events.
     
  14. Triumvirate

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    Yeah but look, we all know by 'religious faith' you don't mean worshipping Allah here.

    So perhaps secularism is in your interest - after all, your beliefs might not always be the popular choice.
     
  15. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    I don't live in a Muslim nation; but even if I did; Secularism doesn't serve my Kadosh interests.
     
  16. Triumvirate

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    Unless you are seeking to impose your beliefs on everyone else, secularism is in no way a problem for you.
     
  17. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Unless you are seeking to impose a suppression of Christianity; promoting Christianity should be in no way an imposition for you.
     
  18. Triumvirate

    Triumvirate Well-Known Member

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    I am perfectly fine with Christians living their own beliefs personally and without imposing them on others.

    Sadly, they have a tendency to insist on forcing their beliefs on others, and this is not acceptable in a secular state - so they should abide by those rules.
     
  19. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Not all.

    So do some Secularists.
     
  20. Triumvirate

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    'Don't impose your beliefs on us' is not imposing beliefs on anyone. Nice try, thanks for playing x
     
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