Prove it or remove it challenge

[Subduction Zone]

Does it explain why we have a chin? Ha ha can you?

Why did you even ask this rather silly question? If someone explained to you why we have a chin would you suddenly change your mind? By the way, there may be an answer to this, I seem to remember reading something on it.

You should not ask foolish "gotcha questions" all you can do is to demonstrate your own ignorance when you do so.

 

[Gene2memE]

I believe its been refuted, however science wont admit it. Its mans arrogance which is at fault here. He thinks hes smarter than God. God will prove otherwise however.

Ah. It's like that then. You've decided on a position and are either unwilling or incapable of taking onboard new information that would require you to revise that position.

All I can hope is that someone, somehow, pierces that bubble of yours, and you take a real look at the evidence presented. Without blinkers or glasses tinted by the answer being arrive at before the question. Until then, the rest of us will keep learning new things and refining our knowledge.

 

[Paterfamilia]

I see that for you ignorance is bliss.

ha ha what I don't see is you engaging any of my points.

Now why would that be?

 

[Gene2memE]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

That's a good one!

Can you name a theory that is better supported through weight of evidence, testing and repeated confirmation through observation?

 

[USincognito]

Learn about the evolution of bats.

Should dogs, for whatever reason, evolve towards becoming flying dogs, their evolution might follow that path.

Ooooo! I think I see where he's going...

Flying foxes

Foxes are related to dogs

Flying dogs!

 

[USincognito]

Is the human race evolving?
{snip photos of how bad Muslims are}

A. Off topic.
B. Non sequitur.
C. You really don't understand evolution, do you?

 

[Extraneous]

Ah. It's like that then. You've decided on a position and are either unwilling or incapable of taking onboard new information that would require you to revise that position.

All I can hope is that someone, somehow, pierces that bubble of yours, and you take a real look at the evidence presented. Without blinkers or glasses tinted by the answer being arrive at before the question. Until then, the rest of us will keep learning new things and refining our knowledge.

Look, i already explained why i dont trust ToE. I have good reason. It seems that if the evidence is so clear as you are asserting, then you would not need to argue with me, an uneducated bubble dweller.

 

[Paterfamilia]

Why did you even ask this rather silly question? If someone explained to you why we have a chin would you suddenly change your mind? By the way, there may be an answer to this, I seem to remember reading something on it.

You should not ask foolish "gotcha questions" all you can do is to demonstrate your own ignorance when you do so.

It's a very relevant question since there is no discernible survival distinction afforded by chins. No other animal has one.

I couldn't care less what you seem to remember. If you would like, let's have a formal debate on the subject. Since you don't offer anything of substance here, you must be saving it for that. We'll see who the fool is then.

How about it?

 

[VirOptimus]

Look, i already explained why i dont trust ToE. I have good reason. -snip/

You really dont.

 

[Subduction Zone]

ha ha what I don't see is you engaging any of my points.

Now why would that be?

Perhaps because you have no points. Your attempt at an "information" argument has been shredded. How new traits are added is well understood now.

 

[Extraneous]

You really dont.

Why argue with me then?

 

[VirOptimus]

Why argue with me then?

Why not?

 

[USincognito]

Plants must have been first i would assume. If not then animals would have nothing to eat. Yes, we evolved from bananas.

 

[Paterfamilia]

Member Since:Yesterday Messages:26​

I'm sorry, is there any reason that I should take your posts seriously?

Not yet.

 

[Extraneous]

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lol, yes exactly.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's a very relevant question since there is no discernible survival distinction afforded by chins. No other animal has one.

I couldn't care less what you seem to remember. If you would like, let's have a formal debate on the subject. Since you don't offer anything of substance here, you must be saving it for that. We'll see who the fool is then.

How about it?

You don't know of any. What you are proposing here is an argument from ignorance. The fact that we may not know the answer to one particular problem in no way harms the theory of evolution and it does not mean that we will never learn either. I would not say that the problem is definitely answered yet, but here is a good shot at it:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150413183745.htm

 

[USincognito]

Thats true. Still though, it seems unlikely that animals evolved into plants. Least in my imagination anyway. I think we must have evolved from plants.

Instead of being led by your imagination, you could try being led by facts.
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/23/1/93.abstract

 

[Extraneous]

Instead of being led by your imagination, you could try being led by facts.
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/23/1/93.abstract

No, i like the banana theory better.

 

[Paterfamilia]

But there is no actual communication with DNA. RNA simple builds the protein that follows from a sequence. There is no understanding of information at all.


The problem is that there is more than one definition for the word "information" and your weak attempt to make DNA different by hanging a couple of words so that you have a phrase is still a failure on your part. Your error is still an equivocation error.

I wonder why cdesign proponentsists insist on using "information" when referring to biochemical processes*?







*rhetorical question

SZ I apologize (but I don't withdraw my challenge ha ha), I missed this. You did engage my point. Thank you.

Your point is not a good one however. The information is in the form of instructions. The instructions are transcribed and communicated during the replication process by mRNA and synthesis in the ribosome.

Your attempt to trivialize the information will be ultimately self-defeating. Try another track?

 

[USincognito]

To be honest, its very difficult for me to imagine evolution at all. For a species to come into existence via evolution, a group of individual animals belonging to the same species would need to evolve all at the same time, both male and female as well. Mutations usually seem to cause disease as well, and i dont see how mutations can be a good thing. It just seems all so far fetched. I know God seems far fetched as well, but for me it makes more sense.

Wow. Just wow. Every time I see a variant on the old when a male X evolved and waited around millions of years for a female X to evolve the perfect genitals and reproductive system for him to have sex with it just blows my mind that someone could post something that insipid without thinking about it for more than 10 seconds or, at least, trying to learn something about evolution before making such a criticism.