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Cat gives birth to dog | Metro.co.uk

Cat gives birth to dog

Zhou Yun, the cat's owner, says she knew her furry friend was pregnant so she wasn't surprised when she happened upon two kittens at the beginning of the month.

On closer inspection, however, she noticed that one of the babies was dead.

'I then noticed the other kitten surprisingly looks like a dog,' Zhou, who lives in Yangshan, in eastern China's Jiangsu Province, told reporters.

Zhou, who's also the owner of a pet dog that likes to eat and sleep with its feline pal (hmm...), added: 'Quite possibly the kitty is a mixed child'.

Lai Xiaoyun, president of a local pet clinic, has sagely pointed out (after having a good look at the kitten-puppy, to be fair) that it's impossible for a cat to give birth to a dog.

He reckons Zhou's cat popped out two kittens and one died shortly after: 'So the cat went out and accidentally found a litter of newborn puppies and took one home.'

'Cats and dogs are two different species and it's impossible to have joint descendants,' he concluded.
 

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You think evolution is a cat giving birth to a dog?

No wonder you are so confused all the time.
That's the name of the creationist game, keep them as confused as possible, confusion stops creationists thinking,
add confusion to the lack of education and you have the perfect combination.
It is in fact a money making combination.
 
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Mechanically, its possible....Is it likely? definitely not. But to a certain extent, the biology of a cat and a dog are not hugely different, that commonality of design does not preclude the possibility that a dog sperm could join a cat egg and subsequently implant in the cats uterus.
 
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Mechanically, its possible....Is it likely? definitely not. But to a certain extent, the biology of a cat and a dog are not hugely different, that commonality of design does not preclude the possibility that a dog sperm could join a cat egg and subsequently implant in the cats uterus.

its impossible. no one saw the actual birth and its a story from china.
 
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Mechanically, its possible....Is it likely? definitely not. But to a certain extent, the biology of a cat and a dog are not hugely different, that commonality of design does not preclude the possibility that a dog sperm could join a cat egg and subsequently implant in the cats uterus.
tell us you are joking please
 
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Mechanically, its possible....Is it likely? definitely not. But to a certain extent, the biology of a cat and a dog are not hugely different, that commonality of design does not preclude the possibility that a dog sperm could join a cat egg and subsequently implant in the cats uterus.
Yes, it does. Dogs are no more capable of impregnating cats than humans are - their gametes (sperm and egg) are so very different that they cannot recognise each other.

If you think a dog can impregnate a cat, I strongly suggest you pay more attention in biology class.
 
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Mechanically, its possible....
RM + NS + time. But even that is dubious.
it likely? definitely not.
True

But to a certain extent, the biology of a cat and a dog are not hugely different, that commonality of design does not preclude the possibility that a dog sperm could join a cat egg and subsequently implant in the cats uterus.
As you said, definitely not, but as for the possibility, the difference is still to vast. The dog's genes would have to mutate on the fly (or wiggle) to be viable.
 
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Yes, it does. Dogs are no more capable of impregnating cats than humans are - their gametes (sperm and egg) are so very different that they cannot recognise each other.

If you think a dog can impregnate a cat, I strongly suggest you pay more attention in biology class.


and consider the implications for people / gorillas, chimps and orangs.
 
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RM + NS + time. But even that is dubious.

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As you said, definitely not, but as for the possibility, the difference is still to vast. The dog's genes would have to mutate on the fly (or wiggle) to be viable.

Is not such mutation often hailed as the mechanism of evolution? That within a single generation such a beneficial mutation could occur that would result in a new species?

I do not actually think that a dog could successfully impregnate a cat, to suggest such misses my point.... Rather than whether this story is legitimate, the thought exercise of whether or not the theory of evolution could allow such a hybridization is the bigger point here...
 
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Is not such mutation often hailed as the mechanism of evolution? That within a single generation such a beneficial mutation could occur that would result in a new species?

I do not actually think that a dog could successfully impregnate a cat, to suggest such misses my point.... Rather than whether this story is legitimate, the thought exercise of whether or not the theory of evolution could allow such a hybridization is the bigger point here...
Evolution does not allow such hybridisation to occur. It is simply too improbable that a single dog would have all the millions of mutations required to make its sperm recognisable to a cat's egg. Evolution doesn't say one species can evolve into another, pre-existing species - it says that one species can, in the future, split into two mutually non-interbreedable species.

If your original post was meant to be a parody of evolution, you might want to be more clear in the future - given some of the crazy things people come out with here, it's entirely believable that someone would genuinely think cats can breed with dogs.
 
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Evolution does not allow such hybridisation to occur. It is simply too improbable that a single dog would have all the millions of mutations required to make its sperm recognisable to a cat's egg. Evolution doesn't say one species can evolve into another, pre-existing species - it says that one species can, in the future, split into two mutually non-interbreedable species..

adherents of punctuated equilibrium would tend to disagree, a single generation of organisms can, given the proper amount of beneficial mutations, become a new and separate species....even in one generation.
 
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Evolution does not allow such hybridisation to occur. It is simply too improbable that a single dog would have all the millions of mutations required to make its sperm recognisable to a cat's egg. Evolution doesn't say one species can evolve into another, pre-existing species - it says that one species can, in the future, split into two mutually non-interbreedable species.

If your original post was meant to be a parody of evolution, you might want to be more clear in the future - given some of the crazy things people come out with here, it's entirely believable that someone would genuinely think cats can breed with dogs.


AoS genuinely thinks Uranus bred with the earth to produce Saturn. This is mainstream by his standards.
 
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