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Private sector contractors in discussion with Trump team to build or rent centralization colonies for migrants slated for expulsion

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Donald Trump’s allies and some in the private sector have been quietly preparing to detain and deport migrants residing in the United States on a large scale, according to four sources familiar with the discussions.

And with the former president becoming the president-elect, those preparations are now expected to ramp up.

One of the key elements of any plan to deport immigrants is detention space, which Democratic and Republican administrations have grappled with because of limited resources.

There are a number of contractors the incoming Trump administration can lean on, including those who already have existing agreements with the federal government, making it a potentially easier process.

The hard part, current and former ICE officials said, is finding the money.

“If they want to accomplish the goals they’ve been talking about, they’d need orders of magnitude change [in space and spending]”
 
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Use the correct term Concentration Camp. A place to concentrate people for deportation to Madaga.....
But but but...

Tom Homan, who previously served as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, could potentially serve as one of the leads on immigration in the administration, sources said.

"It’s not gonna be building concentration camps,” Homan told CBS News in an interview that aired last month.
 
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The hard part, current and former ICE officials said, is finding the money.
In addition to detention facilities, obviously there are other issues requiring resources.

"Even setting aside his resource issues – not only do you need the officers, detention beds, removal flights, those kind of issues – the biggest problem, the biggest impediment of carrying this out is the immigration courts," said Sandweg, now a partner of Nixon Peabody leading the Cross-Border Risks team. "The Supreme Court has long said that before individuals are deported, they're entitled to a full and fair hearing. That means a hearing before an immigration judge where they can support defenses to deportation. ... The problem is, those courts are tremendously backlogged. Congress has never really funded the courts to keep up with the volume."

[The bipartisan immigration bill would have supplied funding for an additional 100 immigration judges, but Trump says we can blame him for its failure, after he told the GOP to oppose it to avoid Biden getting any credit for any improvement in the immigration situation.]

"So now Stephen Miller and others are looking at the situation," Sandweg continued. "They know that is the problem. Really quickly, during the last administration, there was no lack of political will to deport as many people as possible, it's not like this is an entirely new concept, yet the Trump administration's numbers were below those of the Obama administration when it came to deportations. The reason why was backlogs in the immigration court."
 
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If you want to deport people, you have to keep them somewhere, or they are highly likely to evade the process. The american people have voted for deporting migrants, so it's only sensible to put the neccessary steps into place.
 
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Donald Trump’s allies and some in the private sector have been quietly preparing to detain and deport migrants residing in the United States on a large scale, according to four sources familiar with the discussions.

And with the former president becoming the president-elect, those preparations are now expected to ramp up.

One of the key elements of any plan to deport immigrants is detention space, which Democratic and Republican administrations have grappled with because of limited resources.

There are a number of contractors the incoming Trump administration can lean on, including those who already have existing agreements with the federal government, making it a potentially easier process.

The hard part, current and former ICE officials said, is finding the money.

“If they want to accomplish the goals they’ve been talking about, they’d need orders of magnitude change [in space and spending]”
So, if you went to Australia, and were not a citizen and overstayed your papers... what would they do?

I'll tell you, because my friend did just that.. When he was discovered by a sheriff on patrol.. it was 24 hours from being found.. to being in his home country... Into the cop car, into a cell, onto a plane.... Cannot go back for 10 years.

That's how it should be.

Come to a country to visit... follow protocol.
Come to live, go through the proper channels and vetting.

Every single illegal ( because that's what they are) entry should be found and sent back to their home country.
If they can prove that they are a refuge.. ok... but if they just wandered into the US... without following proper immigration procedure.. they are here illegally and should be sent right back.

If Biden created the problem, he should be blamed for any cost to the US or the illegal in question. It is the safety of the country and it's citizens, the economy, housing market, employment situation, and reputation of the department of immigration that is at stake.

Every country needs immigrants, that is for sure, however it must be done with checks, balances, rules and regulations.

Just letting people from all over the world,from all walks of life, cultures, attitudes, mental states, agendas and motives, walk into your country, in numbers in the millions... will not end well.
 
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The hard part, current and former ICE officials said, is finding the money.
Don't be silly you make the illegal immigrants pay for it themselves by stripping them of everything they own, and making anyone who is legal they were housed with legally liable for the full expense of deportation.
 
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So, if you went to Australia, and were not a citizen and overstayed your papers... what would they do?
Sorry, we Americans do not kowtow to the peculiar judicial procedures of foreign alpine countries we can't even locate on a map.

We have a Constitution that sets out what due process looks like.

None of this Boot nonsense for us.

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Sorry, we Americans do not kowtow to the peculiar judicial procedures of foreign alpine countries we can't even locate on a map.

We have a Constitution that sets out what due process looks like.

None of this Boot nonsense for us.

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Australia is not "alpine".
And, the USA does have legal protocol for becoming a citizen and punishments for those that don't follow such protocol.
 
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Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan

Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice."
What is the cost if it's not done? Better question.
You only have to look to the rise in deaths from drugs and the explosive increase in sex trafficking.
The first responsibility of a government is the protection of it's people. Not the welfare of people who come in illegally..

IMO, whatever the cost will be to clean this mess up... it will be well spent and far less than the cost of having unchecked illegals in the 10's of millions.
 
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Don't be silly you make the illegal immigrants pay for it themselves by stripping them of everything they own, and making anyone who is legal they were housed with legally liable for the full expense of deportation.
Turn them over and shake the nickels out of their pockets? They own only what they could carry on their backs.
More judges and staff for quick due process are needed.
 
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Don't be silly you make the illegal immigrants pay for it themselves by stripping them of everything they own, and making anyone who is legal they were housed with legally liable for the full expense of deportation.
You can also have them work for their keep while incarcerated.
 
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You can also have them work for their keep while incarcerated.
That has already occurred to me. You round up all these millions and then use them as slaves to carry out the jobs they were being paid to do before. There concentration camps could even have a sign above the entrance saying 'work makes you fre....'
 
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But but but...

Tom Homan, who previously served as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, could potentially serve as one of the leads on immigration in the administration, sources said.

"It’s not gonna be building concentration camps,” Homan told CBS News in an interview that aired last month.
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President-elect Donald Trump’s new pick to be “border czar,” Tom Homan, emphasized Monday that the mass deportations Trump has promised will start with those in the country illegally who have committed crimes.

So... same as Obama and Biden, then.
 
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President-elect Donald Trump’s new pick to be “border czar,” Tom Homan, emphasized Monday that the mass deportations Trump has promised will start with those in the country illegally who have committed crimes.

So... same as Obama and Biden, then.
Well then, they do agree on one thing then.
Although, I've never heard of this being carried out in the four years with Biden. From what I understand, Mayorkas lost thousands of criminal illegal immagrents. I don't believe that they spent any time trying to locate or vet any of the many millions of illegals.
 
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Private prison stock to soar.
Time will tell. I've heard so many "predictions" of what is going to take place when Trump takes office.

The thing about these opinions..... they are never checked for validity and 100% are forgotten after stated.
 
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