pretty much no hope

[raven1]

I can't stop my doubt God doesnt exist
i can't stop my doubts heaven doesn't etc. because I can't prove it. I heard faith is a gift from God. I can't prove my doubt wont send me to hell. I can't prove I am good enough to exscape it
so what are my options to go to therapy to stifle the fears I should have or to be afraid all my life.

 

[servant of Merciful Love]

Praying for your strength, hope, peace, and healing

Eternal God, in whom mercy is endless and the treasury of compassion inexhaustible,
Look kindly upon us and increase Your mercy in us,
That in difficult moments we might not despair nor become despondent,
But with great confidence submit ourselves to Your holy will,
Which is Love and Mercy itself.

~ The Divine Mercy Prayer

 

[steve_bakr]

I can't stop my doubt God doesnt exist
i can't stop my doubts heaven doesn't etc. because I can't prove it. I heard faith is a gift from God. I can't prove my doubt wont send me to hell. I can't prove I am good enough to exscape it
so what are my options to go to therapy to stifle the fears I should have or to be afraid all my life.

Seek the assistance of a psychiatrist who is sympathetic to religion.

 

[steve_bakr]

Praying for your strength, hope, peace, and healing

Eternal God, in whom mercy is endless and the treasury of compassion inexhaustible,
Look kindly upon us and increase Your mercy in us,
That in difficult moments we might not despair nor become despondent,
But with great confidence submit ourselves to Your holy will,
Which is Love and Mercy itself.

~ The Divine Mercy Prayer

Amen and Amen.

 

[Lik3]

Seek the assistance of a psychiatrist who is sympathetic to religion.

I agree. I can relate somewhat to your situation, having doubts about having something to do with eternal significance. That is hard to deal with. I will pray for you.

 

[kodadog1024]

keepbelieving.com/sermon/2007-11-07-If-I-Believe-Why-Do-I-Doubt/

 

[kodadog1024]

check this out Raven:


2011 Revisited – Hide and Seek
Posted: 08 Dec 2011 05:05 AM PST
As 2011 comes to an end, I’ve decided to post some of the top viewed blogs of the year that people really seemed to really enjoy. Here’s one that seemed to encourage a lot of you.

Hide and Seek

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter.
Proverbs 25:2

There’s a reason God’s will in specific situations is so difficult to know sometimes. Why it can be so hard to know what God wants you to do.

Who to date.
Where to go to college.
Who to marry.
Where to move.
What job to take.

It’s not because you’re not praying. You’re probably praying a lot. It’s not because you don’t want to know His will. Many of you really do.

According to this verse, it’s because God conceals.
But why? After all, that seems counterintuitive to God’s purposes and using you in them.

The reason isn’t because God doesn’t want you to know His will. He wants you to know it more than you want to know it. It’s because God wants something more for you than that.

Him.

God’s not up in heaven hiding His will hoping you’ll never be able to find it. But he does play hide and seek. Not because He doesn’t want us to find His will but because He wants us to find Him. If He put it out in plain view, we would seek His will instead of seeking Him.

That’s why he conceals it. That’s why it’s so hard.

God’s not trying to make His will plain. His will isn’t the main objective. He is the main objective. He wants you to discover Him most of all.

God isn’t the shortcut to your best life. He is your best life.
God doesn’t want to give you the guide for your life. He wants to be your Guide.

The scariest possibility for your life isn’t getting God’s will wrong. It’s getting God’s will right but barely coming to know God in the process.

You could love the right woman but lose your first love.
You could find the right career but then make it your god.

That’s why He doesn’t just write His will for you in the clouds. At the end of the process He wants you to know something far greater than what you should do with your life or what you should do next.

He wants you to know who He is.

 

[CrossPilgrim]

Yep. I'm learning this myself. Amen! Nice find. Paul said it himself...

What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ Philippians 3:8

 

[raven1]

If I have nothing to worry about why does it say in the Bible that you must believe that Jesus died for your sins to have everlasting life. It doesnt say hope he is there. I used to know he was there now I dont. I need ultimate proof. He also says u must believe without seeing. That is y I think maybe I wasnt chosen to be saved or God doesnt exist ( is this denying God in itself to write this) because otherwise I would not have doubt. See before I could here athiests talk and it would not effect my believe nor was I curious about if what they believed was true and read athiests articles now that I doubt I wonder if they are right. Before I had the wonderful feeling God was 100 percent real. So it makes me wonder if he is there or y he took that away. I know I sound like a broken record and even had someone tell me I just want sympathy, really what would sympathy do for me. All I care about is not going to hell. Anyway, either it is I am going to hell or not. I cant have 100 percent proof I am not. People tell me all the time they doubt God I am just like them people say u are different u have Ocd u arent going to hell. Ocd that God exists doesnt exist it is a trust issue so I am no different, they cant trust either.

 

[dabro]

You need therpay and a good med regiment. SSRI to start off of, then a Benzo short term when needed because this disorder is so horrible

 

[mrsburroughs]

Praying for you Raven. Don't give up. Keep faith.

 

[stacymay]

See a psychiatrist. I know everyone is saying that - because you should.

Make sure to see someone who believes in religion, at least enough not to convince you to stop believing.

God still loves you and He wants you so much. Praying

 

[cedward1]

It is never hopeless raven. We have to trust in the mercy of God. His mercy endures forever! Forever is a long time. He delights to show mercy, too. So salvation is not something that you have to worry about God being reluctant to give you. It is possible that He will let you go through some periods of uncertainty, but in the end it will work out.

Belief is not a work, you know. I do think that the only amount of belief that God requires is the amount needed to say "Jesus help me". Everything from there on out is in the hands of Christ. He won't turn anyone away - He said so. We have to look away from ourselves and look to Christ alone for our salvation. It seems that something (possibly your anxiety disorder) has made you look at yourself to see if you satisfy God's requirements.

But your worry is more over the fact that you can't be 100% certain that you are saved, isn't it? I know that fear. It is not pleasant. Those of us with anxiety problems have a need to be 100% certain.

 

[raven1]

Yeah but my worry about salvation is because of my need for 100 percent certainty God and heaven exists. I can't seem to get to 100 percent. I am not even close to that. He said we must believe to receive heaven and not hell. I am like an agnostic. I can't know. All this is because I freak out about what happens when u if sleep, float around etc. or am I going to hell because I can't know there is. God or heaven. I can't even deal with the fact I may just go to sleep because I fear thinking about it will send me to hell.

 

[steve_bakr]

Yeah but my worry about salvation is because of my need for 100 percent certainty God and heaven exists. I can't seem to get to 100 percent. I am not even close to that. He said we must believe to receive heaven and not hell. I am like an agnostic. I can't know. All this is because I freak out about what happens when u if sleep, float around etc. or am I going to hell because I can't know there is. God or heaven. I can't even deal with the fact I may just go to sleep because I fear thinking about it will send me to hell.

You must believe or you wouldn't be worried about going to hell.

 

[raven1]

I believe in the possibility of God a.k.a doubt. I don't know if possibility can keep u out of hell.

 

[steve_bakr]

I believe in the possibility of God a.k.a doubt. I don't know if possibility can keep u out of hell.

You believe in hell, so believe in Salvation.

 

[raven1]

No I doubt God, hell, heaven everything but they are all possibilities that is y I am scared.

 

[steve_bakr]

No I doubt God, hell, heaven everything but they are all possibilities that is y I am scared.

In some sense, belief is a choice you make--faith is the belief in what is not seen.

 

[Anonymous User_]

Dear Raven,

Fear not!
I know EXACTLY what you're going through! I'm OCD and have had ten billion and one doubts about the existence of Christ and God; doubts that have sent me into deep depression and given me feelings of hopelessness and segregation. I have good news for you, though. I have learned from other experienced Christians in my life that faith is NOT about being convinced in your mind that something is true, but rather CHOOSING to hold it as true despite whatever you think or feel. Faith is a CHOICE, a choice that no one, not even your doubting OCD mind can take away from you. As long as you continue to hold this trust in God, no matter how unrealistic He may seem to you, you are saved. I highly encourage you to read The Case For Faith by Lee Strobel, particularly the next to last chapter, which deals with the existence of doubt in a Christian's life. Also read a book called Can Christianity Cure Obsessive Compulsive Disorder? by Ian Osborn, which shows how other Christians like you, including Martin Luther, Paul Bunyan, and Saint Terese overcame obsessive compulsive disorder regarding their faith and salvation and ultimately used it as a part of their ministry. Don't give up, Raven! You have the Gift of Christ in your hands - you don't have to go through Middle Earth and back again to get it - all you have to do is open it!

Good luck and God bless