JESUS SERVANT:
I know you guys think that this world will be made perfect over the course of time, but you ignore much of what the Bible says in this belief.
GW:
The world will CONTINUE to undergo Christianization--it is already being revolutionized by the power of the Cross--for "of the increase of His government there is no end" (Isa 9:6-7).
JESUS SERVANT:
This world will never be perfect, hence the need for a new earth.
GW:
In the common usage of the Hebrew prophets, an exchanging of "heavens and earth" simply meant some major historic change or shift. There have been many such dissolutions of "heavens and earth" since the time of Noah, according to the OT prophets. See:
"Heavens and Earth" Destructions in Old Testament Times
* 2 Sam 22:1,7-16 = the end of Saul's Kingdom
* Jer 4:23-5:1 = 586 BC conquest of Jerusalem by Babylon
* Ezekiel 32:2-11 = Nebuchadnezzar's conquest of Egypt
* Haggai 2:6-9/21-23 = God's judgment against the Persians/promotion of Zerubabel in rebuilt Temple
* Habakuk 3:1-15 = the Exodus and conquest of Caanan
* Judges 5:4-5 = the Exodus under Moses and Joshua
* Micah 1:1-9 = the 8th cent. BC judgment upon Jerusalem/Samaria by Assyrians
* Nahum 1:1-8 = God's judgment on Nineveh
* Zephaniah 1:1-7 = God's judgment on 6th century BC Jerusalem
Also, St. Peter and the writer of Hebrews spoke in this same manner. St. Peter claimed to be living in some "heavens and earth" that was different from the ones Noah lived in (2 Peter 3:5-7), and the writer of Hebrews claims that the earth was shaken at Sinai but that Heavens and Earth were shaken via Calvary and the removal of the Mosaic-Jewish covenant (Heb 12:18-28/10:9). By these sayings the prophets did not mean a new planet and outerspace as you seem to be suggesting. We must read the bible in light of the bible itself. Let scripture interpret scripture. Let the Holy Ghost-inspired prophets interpret the prophets.
JESUS SERVANT:
The end of the age (old covenant) was solidified at Pentecost in Acts which began the Church age
GW:
Then why did the Jerusalem Church still keep the Mosaic Temple precepts up to AD 70 (see Book of Acts)? And what then did "this age" and "age to come" mean in Matthew 12:30-32? Jesus spoke those words while yet in the Old Covenant era and before Pentecost. Preterists righly demonstrate that "this age" meant the Mosaic Covenant epoch of BC 1500-AD70, and "the age to come" means the New Covenant era beyond the Mosaic world which fled away with the Temple at AD 70.
JESUS SERVANT:
You full preterists spend so much time trying to be right that you miss the Gospel entirely. Get born again of the Spirit of God and you'll know the truth.
GW:
I am born again of the Spirit of God. Most preterists I know are evangelicals.
JESUS SERVANT:
So they argue, fuss and fight while satan is having a field day because as long as he keeps us busy "discussing" we won't be doing, feeding, clothing, loving and sharing.
GW:
Satan was defeated by Jesus Christ (Matt 28:18; Heb 2:14-15; Jn 12:31; 1Jn 3:8; 2 Tim 1:10).
I know you guys think that this world will be made perfect over the course of time, but you ignore much of what the Bible says in this belief.
GW:
The world will CONTINUE to undergo Christianization--it is already being revolutionized by the power of the Cross--for "of the increase of His government there is no end" (Isa 9:6-7).
JESUS SERVANT:
This world will never be perfect, hence the need for a new earth.
GW:
In the common usage of the Hebrew prophets, an exchanging of "heavens and earth" simply meant some major historic change or shift. There have been many such dissolutions of "heavens and earth" since the time of Noah, according to the OT prophets. See:
"Heavens and Earth" Destructions in Old Testament Times
* 2 Sam 22:1,7-16 = the end of Saul's Kingdom
* Jer 4:23-5:1 = 586 BC conquest of Jerusalem by Babylon
* Ezekiel 32:2-11 = Nebuchadnezzar's conquest of Egypt
* Haggai 2:6-9/21-23 = God's judgment against the Persians/promotion of Zerubabel in rebuilt Temple
* Habakuk 3:1-15 = the Exodus and conquest of Caanan
* Judges 5:4-5 = the Exodus under Moses and Joshua
* Micah 1:1-9 = the 8th cent. BC judgment upon Jerusalem/Samaria by Assyrians
* Nahum 1:1-8 = God's judgment on Nineveh
* Zephaniah 1:1-7 = God's judgment on 6th century BC Jerusalem
Also, St. Peter and the writer of Hebrews spoke in this same manner. St. Peter claimed to be living in some "heavens and earth" that was different from the ones Noah lived in (2 Peter 3:5-7), and the writer of Hebrews claims that the earth was shaken at Sinai but that Heavens and Earth were shaken via Calvary and the removal of the Mosaic-Jewish covenant (Heb 12:18-28/10:9). By these sayings the prophets did not mean a new planet and outerspace as you seem to be suggesting. We must read the bible in light of the bible itself. Let scripture interpret scripture. Let the Holy Ghost-inspired prophets interpret the prophets.
JESUS SERVANT:
The end of the age (old covenant) was solidified at Pentecost in Acts which began the Church age
GW:
Then why did the Jerusalem Church still keep the Mosaic Temple precepts up to AD 70 (see Book of Acts)? And what then did "this age" and "age to come" mean in Matthew 12:30-32? Jesus spoke those words while yet in the Old Covenant era and before Pentecost. Preterists righly demonstrate that "this age" meant the Mosaic Covenant epoch of BC 1500-AD70, and "the age to come" means the New Covenant era beyond the Mosaic world which fled away with the Temple at AD 70.
JESUS SERVANT:
You full preterists spend so much time trying to be right that you miss the Gospel entirely. Get born again of the Spirit of God and you'll know the truth.
GW:
I am born again of the Spirit of God. Most preterists I know are evangelicals.
JESUS SERVANT:
So they argue, fuss and fight while satan is having a field day because as long as he keeps us busy "discussing" we won't be doing, feeding, clothing, loving and sharing.
GW:
Satan was defeated by Jesus Christ (Matt 28:18; Heb 2:14-15; Jn 12:31; 1Jn 3:8; 2 Tim 1:10).
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