President Trump defends prayer in schools

[hislegacy]

Trump Defends School Prayer. Critics Say He's Got It All Wrong

Thank you!

 

[High Fidelity]

I don't think it has a place in schools personally as it marginalises minority belief systems in particular areas.

Not everyone is Christian.

If it were an area of high migrant population from Somalia and the majority of students were Muslims, I doubt many would be happy with school prayers being Islamic prayers.

But yeah, so long as Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Satanists etc are all entitled to equal prayers of their own, that's the main thing.

 

[Hammster]

I don't think it has a place in schools personally as it marginalises minority belief systems in particular areas.

Not everyone is Christian.

If it were an area of high migrant population from Somalia and the majority of students were Muslims, I doubt many would be happy with school prayers being Islamic prayers.

But yeah, so long as Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Satanists etc are all entitled to equal prayers of their own, that's the main thing.

Just wondering if you read the article.

 

[timothyu]

Fail to see how funding schools puts a government in danger of being controlled by religion. There should be no partnership between church and state as we should have learned when the church once teamed up with Rome, blindsiding the Kingdom of God in favour of kingdoms of man. But funding is funding for education. The school is not teaching religion, but perhaps about religion, just like they teach about war without going to war. Silly people.

However before Trump goes about seeking votes by appealing to Christians (as he would no doubt do with any religion if he thought it beneficial) I would like to see him recite the Lord's prayer without a prompter.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't think it has a place in schools personally as it marginalises minority belief systems in particular areas.

Not everyone is Christian.

If it were an area of high migrant population from Somalia and the majority of students were Muslims, I doubt many would be happy with school prayers being Islamic prayers.

But yeah, so long as Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Satanists etc are all entitled to equal prayers of their own, that's the main thing.

A high school coach praying after a game is not an agent of the U.S. Congress.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

"As long as there are final exams there will be prayer in schools."

 

[timothyu]

A high school coach praying after a game is not an agent of the U.S. Congress.

Nor will he influence government.

 

[redleghunter]

The lengths some Christians go to ensure their own faith is not welcome in public.

Time to take the mask off.

 

[jgarden]

President Trump defends prayer in schools

There were Republican presidential candidates in 2016 who actually claimed to be practicing Christians, but American Evangelicals, in their infinite wisdom, chose not to support them to abandon them but voted for this President instead!

II I was an American Evangelical I would be becoming concerned as to how history will judge this alliance and its long term impact on their faith - I suspect it won't be charitable!

 

[Albion]

I don't think it has a place in schools personally as it marginalises minority belief systems in particular areas.

Not everyone is Christian.

What you are describing is not the issue. Here is the most critical paragraph in the article--

The U.S. Supreme Court banned school-sponsored prayer in public schools in a 1962 decision...But students are allowed to meet and pray on school grounds as long as they do so privately and don't try to force others to do the same.

Examples of students prevented from having a purely personal expression of their faith was cited. One was about a Christian and another was a Muslim.

 

[Hammster]

I’m not sure why some are having issues with this, unless it’s just because Trump is associated with it. He isn’t defending Christian prayer. He’s defending freedom of religion as practiced by the individual students.

That should be obvious if the article was read.

 

[jgarden]

I’m not sure why some are having issues with this, unless it’s just because Trump is associated with it. He isn’t defending Christian prayer. He’s defending freedom of religion as practiced by the individual students.

That should be obvious if the article was read.

Prior to becoming a presidential candidate, when did Donald Trump voice any interest in defending Christian prayer, or embrace any of the issues that motivate American Evangelicals?

 

[Hammster]

Prior to becoming a presidential candidate, when did Donald Trump voice any interest in defending Christian prayer, or embrace any of the issues that motivate American Evangelicals?

That’s not relevant.

 

[jgarden]

That’s not relevant.

Its only irrelevant because "Hammster" is trying to evade answering the question - if Trump had a past history of supporting conservative Christian issues for the first 70 years of his life, he would have only been too glad to make that fact known!

 

[Michie]

I’m not sure why some are having issues with this, unless it’s just because Trump is associated with it. He isn’t defending Christian prayer. He’s defending freedom of religion as practiced by the individual students.

That should be obvious if the article was read.

You nailed it.

 

[timothyu]

We have freedom of speech. But is there not a time and a place for it, preferably not a movie theatre?

We are not talking Christians having egotistical pride parades through schools hopefully, but simple personal expressions of their faith (regardless of faith) that impose upon no one else.

I had a friend in high school who crossed himself before shooting a basket (and he wasn't even Catholic). No one cared. Yet the 'authorities' suspended us for combing our hair over our foreheads. So go figure what sets people off.

 

[jgarden]

President Trump defends prayer in schools

This President didn't appoint Betsy DeVos as Education Secretary `because of any commitment to improve public education, she was tasked with eroding the separation of Church and State whereby the goal is the diversion of government funds to finance private religious schools!

 

[timothyu]

the goal is the diversion of government funds to finance private religious schools!

So Muslim and eastern religion schools will be funded? That opens a lot of doors.

 

[jgarden]

I’m not sure why some are having issues with this, unless it’s just because Trump is associated with it. He isn’t defending Christian prayer. He’s defending freedom of religion as practiced by the individual students.

That should be obvious if the article was read.

GIven that one of this President's first acts was to ban Muslims from entering the country, until it ran afoul of the courts, does anyone seriously believe that Trump has any interest in upholding the rights of individual Muslim students to worship in public schools?

 

[Hammster]

Its only irrelevant because "Hammster" is trying to evade answering the question - if Trump had a past history of supporting conservative Christian issues for the first 70 years of his life, he would have only been too glad to make that fact known!

It’s not relevant because he wasn’t president then. I wasn’t a Trump supporter during the campaign simply because he seemed to flip flop on a lot of things. I said that repeatedly.

However, that’s all irrelevant at this point. It’s what he does now that matters.