pray for me, i need help....

[endure]

i know sometimes it seems by the way i talk that i think i have all the answers but i really dont think so.
and lately ive been crying out to god to give me a deeper walk with him, more holy, more pure, and to see his him, and hear his voice like ive never heard it before.  i want to know him like jesus knew him and do what jesus did.
im crying out and striving to become that great man of god that im called to be.

but.... what i got wasnt what i expected.and maybe this didnt come from god, but its never happened before, and i beleive it is becuase of all that praying and striving ive been doing.
i stirred something up, and something has come to resist me.

well, heres the story.
somethins up.
like last night i realised that i havent heard the voice of god in a long time, and that really scares me.
so  i prayed, like serious prayer, and i beleive i got what i needed, heard from god had peace, and had an awesome time the rest of the night
and i woke up this morning, ready to have an awesome day because im back with god again and going better than ever it seemed.
and i go to pray...and i cant pray, when i pray, all i can think about are demons in my room. like somethings there, really, REALLY.
so i got up. and started rebuking demons and sanctifying my room,
....the lights were out, i was like "devil leave in jesus name! and SOMETHING CAME INTO MY ROOM! AND IT SCARED THE HOLY HOOHAAA OUT ME!
and it was my little puppy dog just a waggin its tale like the jolly little soul that he is.

but i dont know
maybe i dont have what it takes to do it.
i realised that im alot more afraid of the devil than i thought, becuase i really thought it was like a demon, and it scared me.
its easy to say your not afraid of the devil, well what if a demon actually shows up one day for real and says paul and jesus i know, but who are you? and tears your clothes off and chases you through town while your runnin for your life?

besides the dog, and the whole hoax thing aside from that....

i beleive there was something real oppressing me today, it was real, i couldnt see anything, feel anything, but all i could do was think about demons. and i could just sense the presence of something in my room....
and it made me literally tremble. something has come, to stop me from getting to that place with god.
i was able to pray untill that place where you really enter in, ya know? you praise, worship, talk to god, ask him to come and then, his presence fills the room and then you really go deeper and meet him personally.
and right at that moment, thats when it came, and it stopped me.
ive never had a supernatural struggle this real before in my life...
and i didnt get saved yesterday.
but it showed me im not as strong as i thought i was.
and it showed me that greatness with god comes at a high price.
im going to continue seeking god, i have no doubt that it will happen again...
pray for me.
i really need some help right now.
i dont know if many of you are used to hearing about demons and devils but they are as real as you and me.
and i asked god for the real thing, the real true walk with god, but didnt realise this came with the territory....

 

[daughter of the king]

the bible says in jesus name demons will flee and they will.
i am praying.
can't talk i will reply later
love ya hang in there
luff and hugs
lizzie

 

[endure]

yeah i know.....
see...  i know enough of the word to know that i have no reason to be afraid.
but, it didnt help me any today....
not that the word isnt powerful and effective, but that...somehow... i wasnt strong enough to overcome this thing.
and it scared me, even though i tried quoting scripture and all that.

 

[Auntie]

All you did was let them fool you. Here's how I handle it: When I'm praying, and then I realize a demonic presence in the room, I just smile. And then they go away, coz they know I'm not going to pay them any mind. The only reason they are there in the first place is to interupt your prayer time. All they are trying to do is to get your mind off of God. So when they come in your room, just ignore them. Just keep talking to Jesus.

Just smile and say "Father, you are with me and I know I am safe, I am not afraid. The demons think that they bother me, but they don't. Because you are with me, Father, your power and your love is with me. The demons are so silly to think that they can do anything to me, because YOU are in this room, Father. No matter how much they try and scare me, there is nothing they can do to me, because I am in your presence Lord."

Make sure you smile when you say this prayer, the demons will know that you are not afraid, and they will know that they have no power to frighten you. They will see that you are ignoring them, and they will see that your heart and your soul and your spirit are STAYED ON GOD. The demons will leave when they see they are wasting their time with you. All they are is bullies. They are just trying to bully you. They know they can't do anything in the presence of God.

 

[endure]

yes, good advice.
i know according to the word that i was just fooled.
according to word they must submit to me and i have all power over them.

but...
it seemed like i was so overwhelmed, and nothing helped.
the presence was just overwhelming.
i mean, ive had my fair share of little demons, temptations, bad thoughts, devils telling me i was gonna die, and stuff.
and i can just rebuke them and be done with it.
but this seemed, like something more....
the magnitude of what was in my room overwhelmed me.
i know that all demons are under my feet... but thats only through god, and not all devils are as weak as others.
its just...
this was so real, and so diffrent, the force behind it overwhelmed me.

 

[Blessed-one]

wow... i don't think i've had this kind of experiences, but i know that with God, everything that opposes Him in the spiritual realm will flee.

oh.. Auntie, do you think a person who constantly dwells in "demon" thingie would actually attract Satan's attention? i mean, you keep thinking about it and it won't go away? maybe you should take a stroll and do something else besides thinking of how to get rid of the demonic presence, endure. Get a bit of fresh air uh?

 

[Sharky]

Hey man. I think i got that feeling once too but probably not to your extent from the way you described it. At the time, i really was thinking about God and how I was so on fire for Him. I was prepared to literally run out the neighbourhood, shout to God and tell everyone that He loves us. Well, keeping to the point, a few days later, a big depression hit me telling me that i'm going to hell. No point in doing that, forget about sharing His word, God doesn't care etc etc. I cried outside hard telling God to forgive me because i was useless. But then He lifted me up again. It occured to me that the devil will do anything to try and put us down. No sense of trying to fight it. You gotta get Jesus to send him away.

Soon you will be reliant on God for protection. Then you can practically laugh at the devil's tricks and keep walking with God. Don't feel too intimidated by the devil's size. I'll pray for you too mate .

 

[Auntie]

Originally posted by endure

according to word they must submit to me and i have all power over them.

Give it to God, be God's child and let God handle it, let God protect you. You shouldn't try and handle it yourself. A Father always does the protecting, not the child. Trust God that he will get rid of them for you, and He will, but not if you try to do it yourself. Maybe you got in God's way. Maybe God wanted you to see that you can't do it, and you can't. Next time, just say "Father, in the name of Jesus, they're here again, but this time I'm going to let you take care of it for me, Father". I promise you, If you truely trust God with this, HE will run them off.

Remember Peter, when he looked at the water, he began to sink. And then Jesus saved him from the troubled waters. And said "Oh yea of little faith". I think what Jesus meant was "Hey Peter! I'm right here! Did you really think I would let you drown? Don't you trust me anymore than that?" Jesus wants us to trust him, no matter what.

I understand what you're saying, tho, about it being a strong demonic force. But the solution is still the same. You might sweat bullets for a minute or two, but don't take your eyes off of God. Don't try to "look" at the demonic presence. This is something that only God can handle, so let God go after them. Keep yourself focused completely on God.

 

[endure]

advice taken....
thanks.
keep me in prayer.
im gonna talk to god about it.
g'night.
wow, one crasy day.

 

[Auntie]

Originally posted by Blessed-one

oh.. Auntie, do you think a person who constantly dwells in "demon" thingie would actually attract Satan's attention? i mean, you keep thinking about it and it won't go away?

I think that is very true, Blessed-one. And you can't tell yourself to stop thinking about it either, coz that will make you think about it all the more! We have to replace the thoughts about "demons" with other thoughts. That's why, if we ever find ourself in any kind of trouble, we must keep ourselves totally focused on God. Peter began to sink when he looked at the water. Peter could walk on the water, but only while his eyes were focused on Jesus.

 

[Auntie]

(((hugs))) and prayers for you, endure.

 

[endure]

well,
i dont think i was wrong in the amount i thought about it,
not thinking about it, acting like it didnt happen or wont happen again, not worrying about it, forgetting about it, doesnt change the power of it, or make it go away.
not realising it was there allowed it to grow in my life in the first place, going back to not thinking about it will only promote it more.

it didnt bother me today, i meditated on the word last night and today so i could have the faith to overcome it and i did.

i think it needs to be thought about and accessed or you really dont know what your dealing with or what to do about it.
never do i recall any of the disciples just ignoring a demon, or just leaving it up to god, paul seemed to ignore one demon possessed woman for a while but did finally turn and rebuke her.
i think this kind of struggle is something we fight ourselves.
the power is surely gods, but we wield the weapons ourselves.

i dont think you can say "god deal with this demon" "lord he doesnt bother me, i know youll do something"
i beleive it is something that requires your own efforts to overcome.

 

[Auntie]

Endure, you have to do whatever is right for you, whatever you think God wants you to do.


Because I read and replied to this thread late last night, I had demons on my mind when I went to bed last night. For me, just talking about them seems to make them come around. Talking about them is like "calling to them", or summoning them. At least it is for me, that may not be true for you.

So anyway, I took my own advice, and went to the Lord in prayer, and imagined myself safe in the arms of Jesus. In no time at all, I forgot all about the demons, coz I was with Jesus. That may not work for anyone else, but it works for me.

 

[carmen]

Hi all just putting in my piece. The best way I have found in dealing with this has been to praise God. As God's presence dwells in the praises of his people. And the devil does not like to stay round the presence of God, nor God's own children praising him. Songs about the power of God, The power of the blood, The cross or any songs about the beautiful name of Jesus.
Now that's the way to give the devil a boot, set your eyes on God and have a wonderful time with Jesus all at the same time. And pretty soon the devil is not going to want to come back around you.

 

[endure]

ya know?
ive always heard that sinners or sin cant go into heavon, that devils cant stay in the presence of praise, that devils cant stay in the presence of god, sin and righteousness cant dwell together....

stuff like that, and i think there is a truth to that but....

then how did satan go into heavon, where praise is constantly being done, and talk to god more than once?  job 1.6-7and 2.1-2

carmen
im not areguing with you, or discrediting your post, i agree with you totally.

this just makes me think,
i always thought god would never allow a sinner into his kingdom, or sin into his presence at all, hmmmm..... guess i was wrong.

 

[endure]

auntie
well, i guess so....

 

[Gryphon]

Hmm... this has gotten me to thinking... should I try and rebuke the demon that I belief has come over my wife?  Or maybe it's that she's just listening to Satan... *sigh*... or do I wait on God to change her heart?

Choices, choices...

 

[carmen]

I think that's where the precious blood of Jesus comes in endure. for Christians he see's us through the blood of Jesus as white as snow.
Maybe for sinner's or the devil it is by his grace and mercy?
Interesting thought.

 

[endure]

gryphon
when dealing with somone elses demons, you have to take into consideration whether or not that person wants to be free.
if not, theres not much you can do about it.

unbeleif is rooted in demonic activity, as all sin or ungodliness is, but many times something like that is simply stubborness, ignorance, immaturity, something much less serious than a demon that needs rebuked.
take it to prayer and pray for her, ask god to change her heart, you do war with that demon yourself, commanding to loose her.
anyone can do those things in any situation with another person, but i think anything more than that needs to be led of god.
just my 2 sense.

 

[scott]

So the question is, how serious were you when you said you wanted more of Christ? Enough to put yourself on the battlefield. Sound like you saw a glimpse of what to expect if you go all out for Christ. Just remember The war is already ours, we are fighting a foe who has already lost. He has no power that Jesus does not have authority over. Don't overestimate Satans power. He's a roaring lion but he's a roaring lion on a leash the length of which God determines.
Put on the full armor brother
Scott