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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by dms1972, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. dms1972

    dms1972 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If that is the case then the same goes for many threads on these forums.

    IN any case my question was posted in good faith.

    The subject is a biblical one and worth discussing occasionally. Please don't judge one person myself, who had never even brought the subject up before - that is unfair.

    Maybe you have never met people in your life who advocated something like a one world goverment. So these questions are more than academic for some of us, and we need a place to discuss some of our thoughts in regard to these issues.
     
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  2. dms1972

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    You "think the point the Holy Spirit would make..."

    "The Holy Spirit would go on to say...."



    Sorry pal, but in at least your first three paragraphs you are doing nothing but attributing a train wreck of ideas of your own to the Third Person of the Trinity.

    Speak for yourself, and stop attributing your own cognitions to anyone else, least of all the Spirit of Truth.
     
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  3. LaBèlla

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    It does. You can do a round robin on any subject. But until you have a plan of action in place its supposition. Why do you think bible mentions the same? Many were looking to the end and that was 2,000 years ago. There’s no biblical precedent that we should fix our thoughts on these topics.

    Truthfully, the people I know approach spiritual challenges differently. Rather than complaining about the changing climate and decreasing job security, they invested their energy in developing businesses from home to avert the problem.

    Instead of discussing the threats to education and impact on children, they removed their children from school and taught them at home.

    Rather than devote their time to political debates they focus their energy on deepening their relationship with God, sharing the gospel through their work, and supporting those in need.

    They emphasize doing over discussion so they aren’t caught unawares when changes come. And I do the same. It is fine to have philosophical conversations. But make sure you’ve addressed the practical part too.
     
  4. dms1972

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    There are activist sorts in the BBC too, who seem to push agendas rather than just reporting the news, for instance John Sopel.

    This [globalism] is a complicated issue. I don't know what led Cronkite down that path, but could hazard a guess it came from some of the issues he reported on in his journalistic career. Yet those issues would not necessarily have lead others to the positions he took on these issues.

    That said this all raises some questions for me. Can I as a christian support some form of world order, and what form should I support until Christ returns?
     
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  5. BABerean2

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    Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship in Montana, is one of my favorite pastors.
    He is not afraid to speak the painful truth.

    Try listening to this while you are on a road-trip sometime.




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  6. dms1972

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    No one is saying be thinking about this topic all the time, but its part of St. Paul and St. John, and Jude, and other Biblical writers, and so there is a value in discussing it sometimes.

    Its academic for many because they think they will be raptured.

    All you say is fine and your point about a practical focus is well worth bringing into the discussion so I thank you for that. We don't all live in the US however, these forums are not US Christian Forums please remember.

    But there is equally a sort of disbelief in these matters that never mentions it, as well as those too interested in this subject.

    My health isn't good at times, makes it hard to find regular work. I make flower boxes at home at the minute - I don't have any workshop/garage - I go round to my mum's from time to time because she has a garage - I look after her garden, shop for her, and paint exterior and decorate for her inside from time to time, sometimes other family members help too, I support a few registered charities. I have no car. I cannot even bring my difficulties at times up to other christians for they have no interest in helping practically.
     
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  7. dms1972

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    Nations are not supposed to be wholly independent and self-sufficient, while they are to be separate jurisdictions, geographically and politically distinct, with their own institutions, they can also be inter-dependent = Inter-nationalism, as opposed to Globalism. But clearly one Country or Nation may have pre-eminence in each epoch of history. For several generations now that has been America. A superpower has a great responsibility in world affairs.
     
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  8. LaBèlla

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    I’m sorry to hear of your health challenges. Do you make the boxes by memory or from a drawing? Your work could be of interest to gardeners. Have you taken pictures?

    It sounds like you enjoy DIY. That’s a popular subject for many who work at home as is decorating. If possible, you should photograph your work and consider putting it on a blog. The physical products could generate income through the plans. Since they’re digital your out of pocket costs would be minimal.

    God always has a ram in the bush. Perhaps He intends to resolve your issues in a way you never conceived. You just happened across someone who knows the subject well. There are no coincidences in His kingdom. :)
     
  9. dms1972

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    I made several that never got used for a community garden project I had helped with unfortunately that closed, and I am trying to get them back rather than that they get scraped, or someone else takes them. I can tell you more about it if you want to PM me.
     
  10. LaBèlla

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    You are welcome to message me. :)
     
  11. Jipsah

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    Phhhhhfffffftttttttttt!
     
  12. dms1972

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    Sorry, didn't catch that?
     
  13. dms1972

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    OK I will end with a further reading suggestion because really if anyone reading this thread thinks they will be raptured away the discussion is merely academic for them.

    Those who want really good discussion [not pop. fiction] could check out:

    Josef Pieper - The End of Time: A meditation on the Philosophy of History

    Which is by one of leading Thomists of the 20th Century - its not easy reading but its very rich in insights.
     
  14. nolidad

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    There is only one antichrist foreknown from before time. God knows who He is and Satan will know if not already knowing who he is. According to Scripture in Genesis 3 he is Satan's physical son!

    this all plays into the counterfeit Trinity. A counterfeit mark, a counterfeit Father, a counterfeit son, a counterfeit Holy Spirit, counterfeit miraculous birth, counterfeit resurrection, and the AC as a counterfeit Messiah! The antichrist will accept what Jesus rejected- all the kingdoms of the world by bowing down to his father and worshiping him.
     
  15. nolidad

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    IN what language though? I hold to Hebrew.
     
  16. nolidad

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    Very true. The only positive signs identifying the Antichrist are a ruler who overcomes three world rulers and the other seven bow to him. Then conclusively when that world ruler signs a seven year covenant with Israel.
     
  17. Sabertooth

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    By using your John 16:13 Decoder Ring...! [​IMG]
     
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  18. nolidad

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    Well I will wait. There have been many many people who have declared the antichrist by adding the value of a persons's name.
     
  19. Sabertooth

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    Wrong Decoder Ring...
     
  20. nolidad

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    Well I will just wait! I suspect the value will add up in Hebrew- but nothing explicit says so. I can wait. I am not worried about finding out in advance who the antichrist is. He will be revealed in due time.
     
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