Portland mayor unleashes police

[Sparagmos]

Yeah my wife has a friend that moved to a rural area near Portland shortly before Trump was elected. They stopped going to downtown Portland a few years ago because of these black clad scum were always out harassing people. And yes that has been in the news the last four years. So whatever business is down there has lost their business before the recent riots, which by the way is an escalation of what has been happening for years. The “peaceful protestors” were what gave the little anarchists the cover to do what they are doing now.

So.. I worked in downtown Portland for 9 years and after that, until COVID hit went there for work 2-3 times a week and was never harassed by black-clad people. It’s an incredibly thriving downtown which tourists love and, pre-COVID, was generally full of people. Can you explain in more detail what your wife’s friend was talking about? Portland has long been considered a very safe city to walk around in and I’ve never seen or feared violence on the street, with the exception of the occasional mentally homeless person, but they just yell.

 

[Sparagmos]

Apparently, we know how to google the subject and get the answers for ourselves: Downtown Portland businesses looted, vandalized during riots.

Yes, that was in May, when there were riots and looting in many cities. But people on this thread have claimed that it is still going on, and that “small businesses” have been targeted. Not true.

 

[Sparagmos]

Interesting video about these groups in Portland over the last few years.

Thanks for posting that expose! This is the type of in-depth reporting that people need to understand what Antifa and the Proud Boys are and one of the reasons Portland is a hotspot for clashes between the far left and far right.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

So.. I worked in downtown Portland for 9 years and after that, until COVID hit went there for work 2-3 times a week and was never harassed by black-clad people. It’s an incredibly thriving downtown which tourists love and, pre-COVID, was generally full of people. Can you explain in more detail what your wife’s friend was talking about? Portland has long been considered a very safe city to walk around in and I’ve never seen or feared violence on the street, with the exception of the occasional mentally homeless person, but they just yell.

Just that one area. I don’t know where it is in Portland but I recognize the same streets in the videos. Time frame: In-between the leftist and rightist brawls after Trump got elected and this situation.
She would often comment on them and said she and her husband now just avoid that area. And that area does have businesses on a couple of the streets.
So your saying what we saw in literally a hundred different videos of black clad young people intimidating and harassing people was not real?

 

[Sparagmos]

Do you really believe the businesses interviewed are going to risk mob wrath by expressing non support for the movement?

Just like in Seattle CHAZ, the businesses when interviewed had to express support for the movement, but privately, it was another matter.

Lol. No, that’s ridiculous. There is no “mob wrath” happening here, and the businesses could have said nothing about supporting the movement. You can’t just make stuff up.

 

[Searching1God]

Lol. No, that’s ridiculous. There is no “mob wrath” happening here, and the businesses could have said nothing about supporting the movement. You can’t just make stuff up.

No mob wrath? Ok.

You might want to tell your comrades that the gig is up. Most Americans can see what is going on.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

The conflict between police and protesters happens very late at night. So why would anyone need to walk through it to visit a business? There are no businesses open at that time anywhere near where the conflict is. And there are zero businesses in the two blocks that are affected by the courthouse. It’s all federal buildings on the blocks adjacent and parks across the street.

Thats what I thought. I didn't see many business near the court house.

 

[HannahT]

Thats what I thought. I didn't see many business near the court house.

I googled portland residential area, and came up with protestors making their way though residential areas. It's more than the courthouse.

 

[HannahT]

I saw the videos of some older ladies earlier this week, but was unsure of the context. I found a news clip saying they came outside to stop them from attacking the building they live in. They went after them. These people take away from any message the protestors during the day are trying to promote.

 

[Tone]

I don't know what stories to believe these days. This could all be scripted like reality TV.

*The TV is wholly for entertainment purposes, remember that.

 

[Sparagmos]

Just that one area. I don’t know where it is in Portland but I recognize the same streets in the videos. Time frame: In-between the leftist and rightist brawls after Trump got elected and this situation.
She would often comment on them and said she and her husband now just avoid that area. And that area does have businesses on a couple of the streets.
So your saying what we saw in literally a hundred different videos of black clad young people intimidating and harassing people was not real?

It’s literally just two blocks. And no, there are no businesses in those two blocks. There is a coffee shop close by, which closes well before any clashes occur. The parks across the street, before the recent events, were generally filled with regular people hanging out. They weren’t considered dangerous at all. Those parks are a spot where rallies of all sorts take place, so yes when there have been clashes with proud boys etc., some have happened there but that’s maybe a few days a year. I just don’t believe anyone would avoid a whole city because of two blocks.

 

[Sparagmos]

I saw the videos of some older ladies earlier this week, but was unsure of the context. I found a news clip saying they came outside to stop them from attacking the building they live in. They went after them. These people take away from any message the protestors during the day are trying to promote.

That’s at the police station. not a residential building.

 

[Sparagmos]

No mob wrath? Ok.

You might want to tell your comrades that the gig is up. Most Americans can see what is going on.

You can’t even provide evidence of this “mob wrath.” But I get that some people in our country fall for conspiracy theories quite easily.

 

[Searching1God]

You can’t even provide evidence of this “mob wrath.” But I get that some people in our country fall for conspiracy theories quite easily.
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Business are in terror of the mob wrath, so they sure are not going to stick their neck out and say they disapprove of the protests. So I am sorry I cannot provide you evidence of this mob wrath.

But if you look at Seattle where the businesses were supposedly approving of CHAZ, after the city finally took down this illegal occupation, dozens of businesses have filed lawsuits against the city, and in the filing they even have to be careful to say that they support the anti-racist and anti police brutality of the message, while at the same time suing the city for allowing CHAZ, LOL. They felt the need to cover themselves even while filing a lawsuit.
Local businesses sue Seattle for ‘enabling’ chaotic CHAZ encampment that led to ‘rampant violence’

If they so approved of CHAZ, why would they even sue the city in the first place?

 

[Searching1God]

You can’t even provide evidence of this “mob wrath.” But I get that some people in our country fall for conspiracy theories quite easily.
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And I bet later on, there will be lawsuits filed against the city of Portland and the derelict Mayor who is finally getting his behind in gears, for allowing the rioters to take over for so long. And I am pretty sure they will also cover their their hide by saying that they support the message of the protest, just to avoid mob wrath.

You are living in your activist bubble. It is plain obvious that you have no connection to business owners and do not have any real and honest conversation with business owners in the area. I still have friends in Portland who cue me in on what's happening, most of them are true dyed in the wool liberals and even they are concerned and uneasy with the hard left there.

 

[Wolseley]

I just don’t believe anyone would avoid a whole city because of two blocks.

Good for you. I myself, would not only avoid Portland, I will never set foot inside Oregon. Or Washington; and most definitely not California. There is obviously something in the water out there that turns people into The Walking Progressives.

 

[Wolseley]

You can’t even provide evidence of this “mob wrath.” But I get that some people in our country fall for conspiracy theories quite easily.
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They certainly do.

 

[Sparagmos]

Business are in terror of the mob wrath, so they sure are not going to stick their neck out and say they disapprove of the protests. So I am sorry I cannot provide you evidence of this mob wrath.

But if you look at Seattle where the businesses were supposedly approving of CHAZ, after the city finally took down this illegal occupation, dozens of businesses have filed lawsuits against the city, and in the filing they even have to be careful to say that they support the anti-racist and anti police brutality of the message, while at the same time suing the city for allowing CHAZ, LOL. They felt the need to cover themselves even while filing a lawsuit.
Local businesses sue Seattle for ‘enabling’ chaotic CHAZ encampment that led to ‘rampant violence’

If they so approved of CHAZ, why would they even sue the city in the first place?

This thread isn’t about Seattle or Chaz. There is no “Chaz” happening in Portland. You don’t actually have any knowledge of “mob wrath” in Portland. You don’t have any evidence of fear of “mob wrath.”

People are fighting the police, not businesses or other Portlanders. The only people who may be afraid of protesters are Proud Boy types. Portland is very much supportive of this movement and we’re pretty much all on the same “side,” for justice and against the police.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

It’s literally just two blocks. And no, there are no businesses in those two blocks. There is a coffee shop close by, which closes well before any clashes occur. The parks across the street, before the recent events, were generally filled with regular people hanging out. They weren’t considered dangerous at all. Those parks are a spot where rallies of all sorts take place, so yes when there have been clashes with proud boys etc., some have happened there but that’s maybe a few days a year. I just don’t believe anyone would avoid a whole city because of two blocks.

I didn’t say they were avoiding the whole city. Just that area. And you obviously have not been seeing the video on my news feed over the last few years.

 

[Radagast]

The only people who may be afraid of protesters are Proud Boy types.

Oh, yes, that evil little "Proud Boy" old lady.

Portland is very much supportive of this movement

You mean they are cowed by the mob.