Portland mayor unleashes police

[disciple Clint]

So this Mayor thinks that if Trump didn't use a film like this the people of course would just vote Democrat? Their homes or businesses would be destroyed but the thought wouldn't even occur to them to allow their votes to go another direction?

You know as liberal as Portland is that is not beyond a reasonable fact.

 

[Sparagmos]

Left coasters...

Yeah, I live on the left coast.

You still haven’t said which small businesses are being “destroyed and looted.”
Am I right that you don’t actually know of small businesses being destroyed and looted in a Portland?

 

[Sparagmos]

Are there any business there? Or is it all government buildings? The Home Town Buffet seems like the only business around.

Lol where is “there?” I think there’s a hometown buffet out on 82nd somewhere.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No one is going to entrust the people who did that to do anything. Nor are those people building anything, let alone a new world.

I deal with the people who are in the process of building the 'new world'...and it's frightening.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Lol where is “there?” I think there’s a hometown buffet out on 82nd somewhere.

I forget. Was it the east or the west station?

 

[Tone]

Portland and Oregon in general has been a place for progressive liberalism for around a century now. They vehemently opposed our entry into WWII. Flung fits about it the whole time we were fighting too.

Of course the other military actions since were met with hostility.

I'm thinking that there's something in the water there. (Columbia River)

Currently the city has huge docks for shipping from China, Japan, and India. (Oil from Russia goes to Alaska and into the pipeline). The dockworkers union is still extremely strong and the dockworkers make huge salaries for the work they do. There's a long waiting list to even join that union.

Then there's the sport fishing and camping and logging industry there...very huge part of the local economy.

The social dynamics of that city are strange in comparison to the rest of the Nation.

You can catch a bus to anywhere in the city.

I heard it's the Wiccan capital too .

 

[disciple Clint]

Which small businesses are you talking about? You all have no idea what you are talking about. I was downtown yesterday, feel free to ask me what it looks like and how businesses are doing.

Downtown Portland has lost $23 million in recent riots, says Portland Business Alliance Downtown Portland has lost $23 million in recent riots, says Portland Business Alliance

 

[Sparagmos]

I forget. Was it the east or the west station?

Police station? East side. Go ahead and explain the war zone...

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Police station? East side. Go ahead and explain the war zone...

I was hoping you could share your point of view. The war zone has been "explained" on the news and social media.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Downtown Portland has lost $23 million in recent riots, says Portland Business Alliance Downtown Portland has lost $23 million in recent riots, says Portland Business Alliance

Portland business have no idea what they are talking about.

 

[Sparagmos]

I was hoping you could share your point of view. The war zone has been "explained" on the news and social media.

The conflict between police and protesters happens very late at night. So why would anyone need to walk through it to visit a business? There are no businesses open at that time anywhere near where the conflict is. And there are zero businesses in the two blocks that are affected by the courthouse. It’s all federal buildings on the blocks adjacent and parks across the street.

 

[Sparagmos]

Portland business have no idea what they are talking about.

Two businesses were interviewed, both expressed support for the movement. And of the $23 mil claimed as damage from rioting, $18 mil is loss of revenue. That loss of revenue is largely due to COVID. It’s the hotels that are genuinely being affected by the protests downtown, because people from out of town think downtown Portland is “a war zone” due to media coverage of two city blocks. Locals don’t have much desire to be inside retail stores or restaurants right now anywhere in town, due to COVID.

 

[Archivist]

I didn’t realize that Portland police had to wear leashes.

 

[HannahT]

Well, people won't feel safe going down to Portland with boarded up windows, etc. People can claim the loss of revenue is largely Covid - and no doubt part of it is. Just like every other part of the country. On youtube they do interview more than 2 business owners - and support or not - that two block area is affecting them and others. If you have nuts attacking court houses, fires in parks, etc? I guess people can say it's only covid keeping people away, but it would disingenuous. We have friends that live there too, and it's not covid that is affected them and their neighbors.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

Well, people won't feel safe going down to Portland with boarded up windows, etc. People can claim the loss of revenue is largely Covid - and no doubt part of it is. Just like every other part of the country. On youtube they do interview more than 2 business owners - and support or not - that two block area is affecting them and others. If you have nuts attacking court houses, fires in parks, etc? I guess people can say it's only covid keeping people away, but it would disingenuous. We have friends that live there too, and it's not covid that is affected them and their neighbors.

Yeah my wife has a friend that moved to a rural area near Portland shortly before Trump was elected. They stopped going to downtown Portland a few years ago because of these black clad scum were always out harassing people. And yes that has been in the news the last four years. So whatever business is down there has lost their business before the recent riots, which by the way is an escalation of what has been happening for years. The “peaceful protestors” were what gave the little anarchists the cover to do what they are doing now.

 

[Searching1God]

Two businesses were interviewed, both expressed support for the movement. And of the $23 mil claimed as damage from rioting, $18 mil is loss of revenue. That loss of revenue is largely due to COVID. It’s the hotels that are genuinely being affected by the protests downtown, because people from out of town think downtown Portland is “a war zone” due to media coverage of two city blocks. Locals don’t have much desire to be inside retail stores or restaurants right now anywhere in town, due to COVID.

Do you really believe the businesses interviewed are going to risk mob wrath by expressing non support for the movement?

Just like in Seattle CHAZ, the businesses when interviewed had to express support for the movement, but privately, it was another matter.

 

[Hank77]

Yeah my wife has a friend that moved to a rural area near Portland shortly before Trump was elected. They stopped going to downtown Portland a few years ago because of these black clad scum were always out harassing people. And yes that has been in the news the last four years. So whatever business is down there has lost their business before the recent riots, which by the way is an escalation of what has been happening for years. The “peaceful protestors” were what gave the little anarchists the cover to do what they are doing now.

Interesting video about these groups in Portland over the last few years.

 

[Searching1God]

I know Portland well, having lived there for a certain amount of time. Liberal/progressist city to an extreme. It used to be a decent to great place to live, but the extreme progressivism has created a terrible homeless and drug addict population in many parts of the city.

Lately, with the Mayor's tolerance of Antifa's which has led to the current explosive situation, Portland is truly coming to a fork in the road. Either it continues down the path of reckless anarchism and chaos and professional protesters or it correct itself and reins its the excesses. I hope it corrects itself, there are great people there.

 

[Aldebaran]

What small businesses are being destroyed and looted? I live here, I know of none. There has been no looting since the first few nights of protests over 2 months ago, and no businesses are being targeted by protesters. Do you know something I don’t?

Apparently, we know how to google the subject and get the answers for ourselves: Downtown Portland businesses looted, vandalized during riots.

 

[Tone]

Apparently, we know how to google the subject and get the answers for ourselves: Downtown Portland businesses looted, vandalized during riots.

Wait, how is this connected with the yuge pagan culture of that area?