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Pope Francis Wants to Change Wording of the Lord's Prayer

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by HereIStand, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:33 PM.

  1. HereIStand

    HereIStand Regular Member Supporter

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    According to this article, Pope Francis wants to change the wording of the Lord's Prayer from "lead us not into temptation" to "do not let us fall into temptation," which is a French translation. The theological shift (to us) is good, but I'm unsure of changing such longstanding wording.
     
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  2. Michie

    Michie Perch Perkins. Catholic reporter. ;) Supporter

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    I haven't read anything from any Catholic sources yet. I say leave it as it is. I have not read the article yet as I am doing errands. Maybe he wanted it changed in a liturgical setting?
     
  3. Aryeh Jay

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    PATER noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.
     
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  4. HereIStand

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    Michie, you are falling down on the job. ;) This is first that I've seen of it. Maybe it's another lost in translation article on what the Pope said.
     
  5. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What does the Greek say?
     
  6. Michie

    Michie Perch Perkins. Catholic reporter. ;) Supporter

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    I'll try to catch up when I'm done! :D
     
  7. HereIStand

    HereIStand Regular Member Supporter

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    I don't know.
     
  8. Anhelyna

    Anhelyna Handmaid of God Supporter CF Senior Ambassador

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    Ah - that most revered of our daily journals - often referred to as the Daily Wail.
     
  9. HereIStand

    HereIStand Regular Member Supporter

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    I thought is was the Daily Fail.
     
  10. Rhamiel

    Rhamiel Member of the Round Table

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    I like the new wording, it shows an emphasis on our total dependence on the grace of God
     
  11. Halbhh

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  12. LivingWordUnity

    LivingWordUnity Unchanging Deposit of Faith, Traditional Catholic

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    The following is from The Great Commentary Of Cornelius À Lapide:
     
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  13. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Adam Clarke's Commentary says almost the exact same interpretation.
     
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  14. football5680

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    I would be fine with this change. I probably wouldn't use the new wording because I am so used to the old one but the new wording does more clearly express the meaning of this particular line in the prayer.
     
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  15. concretecamper

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    The Cathecism from Trent

    THE SIXTH PETITION OF THE LORD'S PRAYER: " AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION."



    Importance Of Instruction On This Petition
    When the children of God, having obtained the pardon of their sins, are inflamed with the desire of giving to God worship and veneration; when they long for the kingdom of heaven; when they engage in the performance of all the duties of piety towards the Deity, relying entirely on His paternal will and providence, 限 then it is that the enemy of mankind employs the more actively all his artifices, and prepares all his resources to attack them so violently as to justify the fear that, wavering and altered in their sentiments, they may relapse into sin, and thus become far worse than they had been before. To such as these may justly be applied the saying of the Prince of the Apostles: It had been better for them not to have known the way of justice, than, after they have known it, to turn back from that holy commandment which was delivered to them.

    Hence Christ the Lord has commanded us to offer this Petition so that we may commend ourselves daily to God, and implore His paternal care and assistance, being assured that, if we be deserted by the divine protection, we shall soon fall into the snares of our most crafty enemy.

    Nor is it in the Lord's Prayer alone that He has commanded us to beg of God not to suffer us to be led into temptation. In His address to the holy Apostles also, on the very eve of His death, after He had declared them clean, He admonished them of this duty in these words: Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

    This admonition, reiterated by Christ the Lord, imposes on the pastor the weighty obligation of exciting the faithful to a frequent use of this prayer, so that, beset as men constantly are by the great dangers which the devil prepares, they may ever ad dress to God, who alone can repel those dangers, the prayer, Lead us not into temptation.'

    THE CATECHISM OF TRENT: The Lord's Prayer - Sixth Petition
     
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