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Pope endorses same-sex civil unions in new documentary film

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Michie, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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  2. Michie

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    I don't understand this at all. I emphasize "at all" to the fullest. Isn't he basically condoning homosexual acts? What else is there to be a union between two homosexuals for?
     
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    I don't belong here but that news is quite shocking. I'm sorry for all the Catholics who have to read it knowing God better than the pope.

    May you all continue putting your trust in Jesus Christ and not the pope :)
     
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  5. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    I do not understand it either. I’m still looking for a Catholic source for this story.
     
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    Yeah, I'm trying to put it out of my mind until we have more information.
     
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    Arc F1 Let the righteous man arise from slumber Supporter

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    I'm obviously not catholic but I can say our Christian leaders are no better. Love is now acceptance regardless of what the bible says. I'm without a church right now because they won't listen to the word of God.
     
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  8. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    I know it’s been spreading rampantly lately. I was seeing it in Protestant Churches before I converted. Now it’s pretty blatant in the Catholic Church as well.
     
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    Why are people going along with it? I walked out. I follow the lord not the head of a church. Some other thread just started on this and from what I read if the pope says it's OK then it must be. I have to say from the outside looking in the pope scares me. No disrespect but I have to be honest.
     
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  10. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    Well he scares me too. Along with a lot of other Catholics. I depend on faithful local clergy anymore. And what the Church actually teaches. I mean, it may be the pope’s opinion and he is allowed to have them even if he is wrong. The time to start worrying is when he declares something as an infallible teaching of the Church. And the Church does not teach anything remotely that condones ssr.
     
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    Above is from Crux.
     
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    It has hit most major news outlets. This is completely demoralizing.
    I don’t trust this Pope, I just don’t . He seems to be very deceptive and purposely vague in his speech. When someone is always vague and ambiguous it is usually for a reason.
     
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    Regardless of fine print - this blows the idea of Papal Infallibility out of the water. If the Holy Spirit is really guarding him, he could not do crazy stuff like this.

    Massive question - if receiving the Catholic Eucharist means you are in communion with the pope - who can do such a thing with a clear conscience?
     
  16. Fenwick

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    He hasn’t breached dogmatic infallibility by making an ex cathedra statement. I’m sure that’s intentional, but the scandal is that non-Catholics and even some Catholics don’t realize the significance of that. They think whatever he says is gospel for all Catholics whether he’s on the balcony or the chair of St. Peter.

    So far he hasn’t said or done anything that can’t be reformed by a successor.


    No it doesn’t because he hasn’t spoken ex cathedra on any of it. He makes off the cuff statements to the press and because they don’t know better, they run with them as if they’re dogmatic proclamations for the Church.
     
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  17. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    Exactly. Popes are allowed their own opinions even if they are wrong. We need a pope that will clean up his legacy of confusion and being a poor witness to what the Church really teaches.
     
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  18. Fenwick

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    Yes, hopefully our next Pope is cut from the same cloth as Pius IX, Pius X and Leo XIII. A man of piety, dogmatic fidelity both publicly and privately, a kind disposition towards all yet unrelenting in his advocacy for orthodoxy and orthopraxy.

    If it were up to me I’d nominate Bishop Strickland. The Church needs a cowboy, a new sheriff in town.
     
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    Although I am glad this isn't an ex cathedra statement I still don't understand why Pope Francis said this. I don't really know what to say about it or how to move forward. I still want to be Catholic but this has stunned me.
     
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    I honestly don't thing the ex-cathedra clause is true. Nobody can make a list of historical ex-cathedra statements and agree on them - rendering the whole thing useless.

    But what does one do about he communion issue?
     
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