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Pope accuses Sex abuse victims with slander?

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by eastcoast_bsc, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. eastcoast_bsc

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    I pose this as a question. Various stories from various news sources are running with it.

    What say ye?


     
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  2. Halbhh

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    Well, we can only judge words in context. What precisely was Francis referring to, exactly, as the calumny?

    That someone had done serious wrong won't free us to actually condemn them (the person themself), but only their wrong actions....

    There can be wrongs in response to wrongs,
    And that suggests we need precise context for the actual thing referred to accurately.
     
  3. Go Braves

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    What I saw yesterday was that Pope Francis had apologized to the folks in Chile for “irreparable damage” priests had inflicted on minors, saying he was pained and ashamed they'd done that. I'm interested in the OP's link.
     
  4. Michie

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    I'm trying to find a Catholic source with a transcript now.
     
  5. eastcoast_bsc

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    That is the thing that bothers me. When ever the Pope makes a statement we need a team of cryptologist to uncover the real meaning of what he actually meant. He should certainly be savvy enough to understand that words are powerful.
     
  6. Michie

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  7. Glaucus

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    This is so typical, sadly.
     
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  9. Michie

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    *dp*
     
  10. AvilaSurfer

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    “Several news sources” = One (usually unreliable) source followed by 20-30 places that are good at cut n paste.
    I’d put money on this being false.
     
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  12. AvilaSurfer

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    The OP should have contained a link. A reliable Catholic link. Otherwise it’s just garbage. It’s irresponsible.
     
  13. eastcoast_bsc

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    Look news sources are acceptable as sources. Catholic links are certainly open to scrutiny. Think sex abuse scandal.
     
  14. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A congregation of bishops has vetted Barros and found no “objective reason” to stop his appointment. What evidence do you have that would suggest the pope should question the vetting process in this situation? There does not seem to be any objective evidence to substantiate the claims made against the bishop in this case. People have a right to their opinion but it would appear the church is based on objective reason and not subjective or what is unsubstantiated.
     
  15. AvilaSurfer

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    Look, the fact is your OP has no source. My statement stands. Trash the pope if you want. It’s irresponsible.
     
  16. Rhamiel

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    why do you think this?
    he has always been careless with words
    why do you think he would come to understand this now?
     
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