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Polygamy

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Zachm531, Feb 21, 2020.

Whats your view on Polygamy?

  1. Polygamy is OK today(if legal in your country)

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    31.8%
  2. Polygamy is NOT and NEVER was OK

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  1. S.O.J.I.A.

    S.O.J.I.A. Dynamic UNO

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    it's interesting that solomon was not condemned by God for having all his wives and concubines. rather, he was condemned for having non-Israelite women and for letting these women influence him into worshiping idols, something the LORD warned Israel about in Deuteronomy 7.
     
  2. Ayenew

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    Christianity is about devotion to God. That's why Paul even preferred for a Christian to be alone than to marry. How then it be acceptable to have more than one? And I think the spirit of the whole explanation in Ephesians 5 clearly shows that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
     
  3. Zachm531

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    The verse is:
    “He answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?”
    ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭19:4-5‬ ‭

    Where does this address how many wives a man can have?
     
  4. Dkh587

    Dkh587 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    When he says “a woman”, it’s in the context of what adultery is: a sexual relationship between a married woman and a man she is not married to. A woman has to be married for there to be adultery. Messiah doesn’t have to say “a married woman”, because adultery ALWAYS involves a married woman.

    And that’s incorrect: fornication is not mentioned, it’s adultery that is spoken of in the 10 Commandments - Exodus 20:14

    Paul distinguishes between fornicators and adulterers here:

    1 Corinthians 6:9
    and he distinguishes between the 2 here:

    Galatians 5:9

    More examples of a married woman sleeping with a man she is not married to being the definition of adultery:

    Jeremiah 3:9
    Jeremiah 29:23
    Ezekiel 16:32
     
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  5. Dkh587

    Dkh587 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Exactly. Although, it was unnecessary for Solomon to have so many wives, the problem was marrying women who worshipped other gods, because Solomon followed them and worshipped them too.
     
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  6. Blade

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    Lol was talking to my wife about this and she said.. why is it only men can have more then one? Why can't women have more then one husband. HAHA
     
  7. dqhall

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    The Bible stated Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3). The Bible described Solomon as exceedingly wise (1 Kings 4:29). These two verses are a paradox or contradiction. If a man has 700 wives and many children, how can he adequately teach and visit each child? How could he keep at least some of his wives from divorcing him for neglect and abandonment? How much alimony and child support will he be liable for?

    Ephesians 5:31 (WEB) “For this cause a man will leave his father and mother, and will be joined to his wife. The two will become one flesh." It does not permit threesomes as that is adultery and fornication.
     
  8. Zachm531

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    Yeah polygamy isnt threesomes. Ok lets look at this example:
    “A man will leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, they will be one flesh”
    John married Alexis. John leaves his parents and cleaves to Alexis they are one flesh.
    Not a threesome but a separate thing
    John marries Moriah
    Moriah and Alexis are never married nor engaging in sexual activities with eachother.
    They are each a marriage between one man and one woman but they are separate marriages
     
  9. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    For those who might support polygamy, do you support all polygamy, or only polygyny? Would a woman, in your view, be allowed to have multiple husbands?

    What about completely mixed marriages--a web of married persons?

    If you support polygyny only, what is your argument to support such a one-sided kind of arrangement? Why can a man have multiple wives, but a woman can't have multiple husbands?

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  10. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    Could Alexis or Moriah then go marry George? It would, after all, be a separate marriage--just as separate as the one John has with Alexis and Moriah certainly.

    And I'd argue that if you don't agree with that, then it should be obvious why polygamy would be a problem.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  11. dqhall

    dqhall Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Polygamy is having more than one spouse. Adultery is being married and having sex with someone or some people you are not married to. Fornication is sexual immorality, premarital sex, prostitution, etc. Homosexuality is error.

    Polygamy is illegal in 50 states.
     
  12. Zachm531

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    We’ve never seen polygamy looked at this way in the Bible so im not sure theres any biblical support for it. Polygamy was mostly used to increase the descendant/work size of the mans family. I see support for man with multiple wives but none for wife with multiple husbands. Which is an interesting way to think about it, i’ll give you that
     
  13. SoldierOfTheKing

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    I don't support polygamy of any kind, but note that polygyny has been permitted by many cultures around the world and throughout history. Few cultures have allowed polyandry, and those that have were very particular as who it was permitted to and under what circumstances.

    I think the reason is obvious. A man can impregnate multiple women simultaneously. A woman cannot bear children for multiple men simultaneously. Polyandry creates a bottleneck in the propagation of future generations. Polygyny does not.
     
  14. Dkh587

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    It was God who forbid women to have multiple husbands - he permitted and approved of men having multiple wives. That’s how I view it - permissible for men, not permissible for women.
     
  15. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    We don't see any biblical support for any kind of polygamy.

    We see polygamy described in the Bible, not proscribed.

    Description =/= proscription.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  16. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    That's about what I expected to get as a response.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  17. Dkh587

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    considering that’s the view laid out in scripture, did you really expect a different answer? Do you have trouble accepting this truth?
     
  18. Dkh587

    Dkh587 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    God gave David multiple wives - how is that not “support for polygamy”?
     
  19. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    That's the description of bronze age cultural norms as found in Scripture.

    Is your argument that the mere description of bronze age cultural norms constitutes a biblical proscription?

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  20. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    2 Samuel 12:8 speaks of David receiving what was Saul's, his entire estate--including his wives. God chose David to be king succeeding Saul; the inheritance of the previous ruler's estate is part of that.

    So, no, David inheriting Saul's wives is not support for polygamy. It is a description of polygamy in the ancient near east, not a proscription.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
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