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Polyamory: Pastors’ Next Sexual Frontier

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by redleghunter, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. PloverWing

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    Note that bisexual people don't necessarily have multiple simultaneous partners, just as straight people don't necessarily have multiple simultaneous opposite-sex partners. Who you're attracted to, and how monogamous you prefer to be in relationships, are two separate questions.
     
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  2. chevyontheriver

    chevyontheriver Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Still, if someone is attracted to both at the same time (as opposed to serially) they are out of luck at present in being able to marry who they want to. I think two years from now multiple marriages of whatever gender all at the same time will be as accepted in the culture as the idea that a woman can become a man and a man can become a woman. That's just me predicting. Check back in two years. Or less.

    Not approving. Not at all. Just predicting.
     
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  3. PloverWing

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    This is important.

    Personally, I'm torn about polyamory. On the one hand, I wouldn't want to be in a polygamous relationship, and culturally I'm trained to think it's weird and yukky. On the other hand, the Old Testament is full of stories of polygamy, often without any condemnation of the practice; it seems to have been just taken for granted in some ancient cultures. So I can't say that polygamy is anti-Biblical, as much as I might like to.

    So I think we come to HatGuy's point: How does polygamy work out in practice? Is it loving and life-giving for everyone in the relationship, or does it end up being repressive or harmful? I'm hearing from HatGuy that it's often harmful, as practiced in South Africa. I'd want to explore a little further: Is there protective legislation that could make the marriages better? Does it matter if polyandry is allowed in addition to polygyny? Is there a way of ensuring that everyone has given free and full consent? and so on. But if polygamy ends up hurting the people involved, even with these extra protections, then that's the reason to prohibit it.
     
  4. Kenny'sID

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    Is that really a justification in your mind?

    Do I really need to actually say, I disagree?

    Don't do extramarital affairs, consensual or otherwise and there won't be any problem at all.
     
  5. Quartermaine

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    not to anyone remotely honest

    ^_^

    do you ever read your own posts?
     
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  6. Quartermaine

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    if you can't muster the manners to call his spouse what he is then he's not much of a friend then
     
  7. Tropical Wilds

    Tropical Wilds Lord, beer me strength...

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    I really don’t care what Tyler, Amanda, Joe, or anybody else does in their bedroom and in their relationships.
     
  8. Quartermaine

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    One of the sad facts of life about polygamy involves young boys that are the result of these relationships. Generally around the age of 14 boys are thrown out of their homes and driven from the community by their father and the other adult men. the reason is competition. Adult men want to have and marry teen age girls but they have to limit the girls options of marriage to force them into it.
     
  9. JacksBratt

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    I agree. Not sure why the LGBT group wanted to go to a church to get married anyway... not like they agree with what it stands for and on... Why the fight... Just go to the JP and be done... stop coming to church and then saying that they are not giving you the rights of marriage... there are plenty of other places to go and achieve what you are looking for...
     
  10. JacksBratt

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    There are many examples of men with many wives in the bible.. However, I don't think that this was the plan for most common folk... or anyone for that matter..

    There are many examples of scripture that concerns this here:

    What Does the Bible Say About Marraige One Man One Woman?


    This is an example:


    1 Corinthians 7:2
    But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
     
  11. PloverWing

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    Yeah, anything that involves driving out teenage boys or forcing teenage girls into marriages is out. The state has an interest in protecting teenagers of both sexes. The church should have an interest in it too, though I'm aware that polygamy is sometimes connected to religious conviction.
     
  12. S.O.J.I.A.

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    ....it's happening.
     
  13. chevyontheriver

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    It's important to them to force you to like them anywhere and everywhere, including your church.
     
  14. redleghunter

    redleghunter Thank You Jesus! Supporter

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    That’s good news you have a nurse to do this.

    I can only speak of the church plant where I am a member. Vast majority military or military retired and lots of young married couples with lots of young children. The children outnumber the adults. :)

    While we wait for the permanent permanent construction of our church building, we are using the local YMCA for services. Many are already members of the Y. So my church currently boasts an Olympic sized swimming pool, a full basketball court and workout room. Not to mention Zumba thrown in there. :)
     
  15. Bruce Leiter

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    Did anyone bring up the Bible's position on marriage in Genesis 2:24 and Ephesians 5:20-33? The pattern of one man and one wife is the ideal marriage relationship. Anything else is a violation of God's principle in those passages and others.
     
  16. Angeldove97

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    Your 2 cents.

    He isn't a spouse if he doesn't fit the definition of one - per the theology that I follow. That is between him and God though.
     
  17. ColoRaydo

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    Personally, I see this as a situation of a man with no self esteem, another man who is a manipulator, and a woman is either completely deluded or just slowly trying to get her original husband out of the picture.

    There is very little chance any of these relationships will last.

    If any of them are actual Christians temporarily off track, they will be convicted by the Holy Spirit to change.
     
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  18. redleghunter

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    Polygamy did happen in the OT. However, it was not the design of God from the beginning.

    If we look at the men in the OT who had multiple wives and concubines we see that such ends up being their undoing or created strife.
     
  19. redleghunter

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    Sure I guess you don’t nor do I.

    The article is about how pastors should address and inform their churches on such relationships.

    So this is not about our opinions but how the church community deals with sin.
     
  20. redleghunter

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    Not to mention Matthew 19:4-6

    But no...the first half of this thread was “whataboutism.” Like what about gluttony. But I think we have it on track now.
     
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