Poll Finds That 42% Of Young Americans Would Elect A Socialist President

[rjs330]

By the way, many of the homes built in the 50's are thanks to Eisenhower's support of the construction of low-income housing. Many of those 3 bedroom ranch home that were built were bought with the help of the GI bill, allowing many WWII soldiers to buy homes.
My parents did okay with theirs. Mom finally sold hers in 2016 and it went in one day.

That would definitely be supported by the Republicans if today as well.

 

[FreeinChrist]

My response here:

was in responce to this:

bekkilyn said: ↑
Irrelevant. The candidates proposing to turn the U.S. into anything like Venezuela are....absolutely none of them.

And as I pointed out Chavez did not start out to wreck the Venezuelan economy except that his embrace of socialism did just that......

Chavez was imprisoned before he was President of Venezuela and had very extreme views for a long time. They didn't pop up in 1998.

 

[civilwarbuff]

So remind us again: which Democratic candidates are proposing nationalization of the means of production?

You think they would admit to that BEFORE getting elected?.....

 

[wing2000]

Please get back to us when one of the candidates proposes nationalization of the means of production.

....crickets.

 

[wing2000]

You think they would admit to that BEFORE getting elected?.....

You got anything besides baseless speculation?

 

[Speedwell]

You think they would admit to that BEFORE getting elected?.....

Oh! They're secret socialists. How sinister. But if they're secret socialists, how do you know?

 

[bekkilyn]

You think they would admit to that BEFORE getting elected?.....

Does Vermont have statewide means of production? As just one example, Bernie has been in politics for a very long time and has a very consistent voting record over many, many years and is supported by both Democrats and Republicans and Independents in his state and typically has high approval ratings. To seriously think he would entirely change his platform after becoming elected President is simply being paranoid. (Especially since he's really not proposing anything much different than a 1950's Republican.) Since Warren and the others are typically viewed as less "extreme" than Bernie by the far right (and Warren even used to be a Republican herself), again this sort of thinking is paranoid and the use of fear-mongering at best when there is no basis whatsoever for any of it.

 

[Speedwell]

Does Vermont have statewide means of production? As just one example, Bernie has been in politics for a very long time and has a very consistent voting record over many, many years and is supported by both Democrats and Republicans and Independents in his state and typically has high approval ratings. To seriously think he would entirely change his platform after becoming elected President is simply being paranoid. (Especially since he's really not proposing anything much different than a 1950's Republican.) Since Warren and the others are typically viewed as less "extreme" than Bernie by the far right (and Warren even used to be a Republican herself), again this sort of thinking is paranoid and the use of fear-mongering at best when there is no basis whatsoever for any of it.

Bernie's been playing a long game. He's kept his evil lust to nationalize the means of production a deep secret all his life in case he might be President some day.

 

[GodLovesCats]

What's horrifying is your extreme exaggeration of the issues.

The first three are not even close to being exaggerations.

 

[mark46]

Obviously, I have no problems with Christians being members of any of our political parties.

HOWEVER, I don't understand how Christians cannot favor legislation that puts a safety net under our poor, or sick, and our prisoners. I also don't understand Christians not strongly supporting the rights of all minority groups (this was the pledge of Republicans for 100 years).

And yes, I do somewhat understand the Libertarian approach of a very, very weak government. I just strongly disagree, unless all the churches would take responsibility for ALL the poor, sick and jailed.

 

[miamited]

From the "Unexpectedly good news", files: Poll Finds That 42% Of Young Americans Would Elect A Socialist President

“Forty-one percent (41%) of Democrats say they would vote for a presidential candidate who identifies himself or herself as a socialist, but only 19% of GOP voters and 16% of unaffiliateds agree,” Rasmussen notes.
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A further Gallup poll from May found that 47% of all Americans would vote for a socialist presidential candidate. The poll noted that among Democrats, the support for socialism is even higher, with 70% declaring it would be better for America.​

If the cross-poll data is reasonably valid, then it means that fewer Americans are now supporting socialism than six months ago. That's a good thing. It means that the national discussion about socialism has already begun to change hearts and minds.

Hi NH,

Personally, I don't have anything against socialism as a word. For me, each piece of legislation stands on it's own merits. I believe that some legislation that is good for the many at a cost to all can be very good for the country at large.

Often when people talk about socialism, they're referring to legislation like welfare programs. Healthcare with a single payer government program. If these are the kinds of 'socialism' that some are afraid of, I don't count myself in that number.

So for me, a certain amount of socialism is a good thing in all government. I'm not afraid of the word. It doesn't make my heart tremble in fear when I hear someone say that socialism is coming. I think of the old Chicken Little story.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[GodLovesCats]

Oh! They're secret socialists. How sinister. But if they're secret socialists, how do you know?

If they were socialists everybody would know it by now. Obviously they are Democrats, not socialists.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Bernie's been playing a long game. He's kept his evil lust to nationalize the means of production a deep secret all his life in case he might be President some day.

Either prove it or admit you are wrong. People who are constantly in the spotlight can't hide stuff like that and he is one of those attention-getters.

 

[civilwarbuff]

You got anything besides baseless speculation?

They have already thrown the 'class warfare card', even though many of them are wealthier than most of us ever hope to be, in that the rich will pay for all these goodies they are proposing. Saying they will make the rich pay their 'fair share' is standard fare for socialists; they love class warfare.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Oh! They're secret socialists. How sinister. But if they're secret socialists, how do you know?

See above post.....btw, I ain't the only one who knows......

 

[wing2000]

They have already thrown the 'class warfare card', even though many of them are wealthier than most of us ever hope to be, in that the rich will pay for all these goodies they are proposing. Saying they will make the rich pay their 'fair share' is standard fare for socialists; they love class warfare.

Calling for higher taxes for the well off is a FAR cry from taking over the means of production.

 

[Skreeper]

See above post.....btw, I ain't the only one who knows......

Good think we got you 'woke' people who can see through their evil schemes.

Are the illuminati involved too?

 

[Speedwell]

Either prove it or admit you are wrong. People who are constantly in the spotlight can't hide stuff like that and he is one of those attention-getters.

Sorry, I forgot to add "/satire"

 

[rjs330]

In trying get past the rhetoric and figure out exactly what was going on I came across this. It seems that the so called cuts not related to actually cutting people off of Medicare but in reducing the pricing.
It sounds like much of the reductions happened during Obama.

Is Trump really proposing to cut Medicare?

 

[FreeinChrist]

What do you think socialists do?....they nationalize (government ownership) industry.

You are moving goal posts and are all over the place. The oil industry in Venezuela was nationalized long before Chavez was around. It was nationalized by non-socialists.
I suggest reading some history of Venezuela.

With record high employment finding jobs is not the problem it was under Obama therefore it would logically follow a reduction in food stamps would occur.

But most of those jobs do not pay much. And there was a problem with jobs under Obama because of the great recession that started under G. W. Bush.

By the way, we are in a manufacturing recession now. Under Trump. Where are all those coal jobs he promised.

And if you have any investments no doubt you are also dancing in the streets.....Those profits get shared with ordinary people who are invested in their companies.

I have investments. I am also aware that the market is propped up by the Feds printing money to keep it up - but that can cause a real problem when the recession hits in more than manufacturing.
The market is also vastly over-sold. The next recession will hurt.