Years ago ago read a book called Beyond the Welfare State by Gunnar Myrdal, Nobel laureate and the chief architect of the Nordic Model. In it he opined that the Nordic Model would never work in the US because the quality of our civil service was too low and did not foster the kind of intellectual competence necessary.
I'm not aware that any of those countries consider themselves socialist ... or even democratic socialists.The democratic socialist country are the countries of Western Europe, certainly the UK and all the Scandinavian countries.
No, you can't have it both ways. If the programs being proposed by Democratic political candidates are "socialist" then the countries of Western Europe and Scandinavia are "socialist" too.I'm not aware that any of those countries consider themselves socialist ... or even democratic socialists.
Wikipedia lists Socialist countries here: List of socialist states - Wikipedia
Wikipedia lists Democratic Socialist states here: Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
I don't see that either agrees with your statement.
I'm not aware that any of those countries
consider themselves socialist ... or even democratic socialists.
Wikipedia lists Socialist countries here: List of socialist states - Wikipedia
Wikipedia lists Democratic Socialist states here: Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
I don't see that either agrees with your statement.
Since so many Americans are completely ignorant of what real socialism is, thinking the false right wing propaganda definition is correct, It's imposdible to poll correctly.
Give people real facts, then poll.
I'm not aware that any of those countries consider themselves socialist ... or even democratic socialists.
Wikipedia lists Socialist countries here: List of socialist states - Wikipedia
Wikipedia lists Democratic Socialist states here: Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
I don't see that either agrees with your statement.
This is a form of gas lighting, the far right wing are trying very hard to mischaracterise the position of the left to be a position of full on Sociallism, when actually the left is only considering safety nets to help those in need and to give business owners and entrepreneurs a backstop for the risks they need to take. Also in support of some common infrastructure like hospitals and medical care which is needed by all in society, not just the rich.From the "Unexpectedly good news", files: Poll Finds That 42% Of Young Americans Would Elect A Socialist President
The reason I picked Venezuela is because there is no excuse for it to be in the position it is currently in except for socialism. It has had access for decades to billions in oil reserves and should be at the very least the wealthiest nation in SA if not in all of the the Americas. Instead they are in total collapse due to the socialistic policies and economics of its government.Textbook example of cherry-picking.
Picking out Venezuala as a representative example of socialism is liking picking out Charles Manson as representative of white people.
That, plus no Socialists are actually running. At least not for a major party.The GREAT news in the recent poll is that Independents were the least likely group to vote for a socialist.
Without Independents, it will be really hard for a Socialist to win.
That's your assertion. What's your argument? What other possible causes are there and how did you eliminate them? Arguments could be made that a single-party political system and corrupt practices could be contributory. How do you counter them? Since the Right's definition of socialism includes the countries of Western Europe and Scandinavia, explain why those countries are not also failed states.The reason I picked Venezuela is because there is no excuse for it to be in the position it is currently in except for socialism. It has had access for decades to billions in oil reserves and should be at the very least the wealthiest nation in SA if not in all of the the Americas. Instead they are in total collapse due to the socialistic policies and economics of its government.
When the candidates are proposing Socialism, then it is fair to call it socialism.No, you can't have it both ways. If the programs being proposed by Democratic political candidates are "socialist" then the countries of Western Europe and Scandinavia are "socialist" too.
The US Armed Forces.Ok. Then please provide an example of a socialist state which works.
I'll wait.
That's your assertion. What's your argument? What other possible causes are there and how did you eliminate them? Arguments could be made that a single-party political system and corrupt practices could be contributory. How do you counter them? Since the Right's definition of socialism includes the countries of Western Europe and Scandinavia, explain why those countries are not also failed states.
Norway, the Netherlands, Germany. Want more?Ok. Then please provide an example of a socialist state which works.
I'll wait.
Yes, there is an excuse for the position it is in. It is an economy based on oil. That is why it was rich at one point, and mismanagement caused the problem.The reason I picked Venezuela is because there is no excuse for it to be in the position it is currently in except for socialism. It has had access for decades to billions in oil reserves and should be at the very least the wealthiest nation in SA if not in all of the the Americas. Instead they are in total collapse due to the socialistic policies and economics of its government.
France has done well.Norway, the Netherlands, Germany. Want more?