Politifact, Is That You??? (Agrees with DeSantis)

[GOD Shines Forth!]

A sign of apocalypse? PolitiFact "mostly" agrees with DeSantis on the benefit of conferred natural immunity?

"Both vaccinations and natural exposure build memory B cells. But the Rockefeller team found that the memory B cells produced through natural infection are more robust. They continue to evolve over the months, while the vaccination-driven memory B cells stopped changing after about two months. When facing variants, the naturally occurring memory B cells delivered better protection"

(Fauci forfend!)

PolitiFact - Fact-checking DeSantis on COVID-19 natural immunity

 

[Belk]

That is because, contrary to popular belief, fact checkers check facts in a non partisan manner.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

That is because, contrary to popular belief, fact checkers check facts in a non partisan manner.

Just like judges don't rule along party lines ;-)

 

[Belk]

Just like judges don't rule along party lines ;-)

Not saying there is no bias, but they do try to keep it to a minimum.

 

[wing2000]

Just like judges don't rule along party lines ;-)

Speaking at the University of Louisville’s McConnell Center, in Kentucky, Justice Barrett said that “judicial philosophies are not the same as political parties.”

“To say the court’s reasoning is flawed,” she said, “is different from saying the court is acting in a partisan manner.”

Justice Barrett says the Supreme Court’s work is not affected by politics.

 

[A_Thinker]

A sign of apocalypse? PolitiFact "mostly" agrees with DeSantis on the benefit of conferred natural immunity?

"Both vaccinations and natural exposure build memory B cells. But the Rockefeller team found that the memory B cells produced through natural infection are more robust. They continue to evolve over the months, while the vaccination-driven memory B cells stopped changing after about two months. When facing variants, the naturally occurring memory B cells delivered better protection"

(Fauci forfend!)

View attachment 305966


PolitiFact - Fact-checking DeSantis on COVID-19 natural immunity

DeSantis and PolitiFact vs. Fauci ?

Why is DeSantis and/or PolitiFact speaking on "natural immunity" ?

Is "natural immunity" a normal course of political study ?

Hmmm ...

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Well, from what I have observed over the last year and a half, the research agrees with Politifact. It has been demonstrated that vaccinated people can still catch and transmit Covid19.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

Well, from what I have observed over the last year and a half, the research agrees with Politifact. It has been demonstrated that vaccinated people can still catch and transmit Covid19.

So can unvaccinated who had COVID as well but yes, that is true.

 

[A_Thinker]

Well, from what I have observed over the last year and a half, the research agrees with Politifact. It has been demonstrated that vaccinated people can still catch and transmit Covid19.

Is that ALL of the research ?

Nothing about efficacy of vaccines ?

Nothing about a major decrease in vulnerability to COVID (both infection and serious disease) among the vaccinated ?

Nothing about vaccines for 12 and under ?

Nothing about the unvaccinated being the vast majority of COVID hospitalizations and deaths ?

Nothing about DeSantis' Florida having the highest current numbers of new cases and deaths ?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Is that ALL of the research ?

Nothing about efficacy of vaccines ?

Nothing about a major decrease in vulnerability to COVID (both infection and serious disease) among the vaccinated ?

Nothing about vaccines for 12 and under ?

Nothing about the unvaccinated being the vast majority of COVID hospitalizations and deaths ?

Nothing about DeSantis' Florida having the highest current numbers of new cases and deaths ?

Right.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

DeSantis and PolitiFact vs. Fauci ?

Why is DeSantis and/or PolitiFact speaking on "natural immunity" ?

Is "natural immunity" a normal course of political study ?

Hmmm ...

Fauci seems to be coming around to the pros of natural immunity lately.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Fauci seems to be coming around to the pros of natural immunity lately.

Really? Where did you get that?

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Really? Where did you get that?

Sorry, was watching an interview with him recently where he was asked something along those lines. He didn’t give complete approval to it but he was talking about it and it was closer than I have ever heard him say.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Sorry, was watching an interview with him recently where he was asked something along those lines. He didn’t give complete approval to it but he was talking about it and it was closer than I have ever heard him say.

OK. This is my first knowing anything to that effect. Thanks.

 

[A_Thinker]

Fauci seems to be coming around to the pros of natural immunity lately.

It's not either/or ... it's both/and ...

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

It's not either/or ... it's both/and ...

Both/and what?

 

[hedrick]

The fact check also pointed out that for someone who has had the disease, getting vaccinated still increases their immunity.

 

[rambot]

When right wingers are shocked when fact checkers support their leaders, it seems like an unflattering look. They're fact checkers; when your leaders are right, they will say "mostly right".
Certainly don't trot out the examples that you agree with and then fluff them off when, AGAIN your leaders are lying.

Your leaders lie. Don't get used to it and don't blame people calling out lies.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The fact check also pointed out that for someone who has had the disease, getting vaccinated still increases their immunity.

What does that mean? Does it stop the virus from spreading?

 

[A_Thinker]

Both/and what?

Vaccination and natural immunity (which comes via the surviving infected).

That's how you stop viruses.

Vaccinations just means less people have to die ...