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Featured Please Stop Saying "Replacement Theology"

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Tree of Life, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. Tree of Life

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    The term "replacement theology" is not helpful because:
    1. It is uncharitable. It does not seek to listen to or understand covenant theology, but rather to dismiss it without giving it a proper hearing.

    2. It is pejorative. It's meant to cause harm by making our views seem ridiculous and not worthy of consideration.

    3. It is not accurate. No one would assume this label for themselves because no one believes that the church has "replaced" Israel. When this label is used, what comes across is that our views have not really been understood and the person that we're communicating with does not care to take the time to understand our views.
    So please stop using the term "replacement theology". Thanks!
     
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  2. Dave-W

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    Of course they do. It was stated plainly just like that by the Early Church Fathers. I hear it on these forums at least a couple times a week.
     
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  3. tampasteve

    tampasteve Messianic and Lutheran Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter Staff on LOA

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    While I understand where you are coming from, this is just not accurate. I have read it many times, even from people on this forum, where people literally believe that the Church has replaced Israel and the Jewish people, and they definitely mean replaced, not just in a covenental way.
     
  4. Tree of Life

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    I would be interested in seeing some quotes. I suspect that you're only thinking that you're hearing it and you're really failing to listen and understand their views.
     
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  5. A Realist

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    Yes. Supersessionism is the more appropriate term.
     
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  6. Tree of Life

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    I would be interested in seeing some quotes. I do think it's possible that some laymen may make mistakes in their verbiage. But on the whole "replacement theology" is really a profound misunderstanding of covenant theology. And using the term does not help dialogue and mutual understanding.
     
  7. SeventyOne

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    I'm sure people will stop using it when it's no longer applicable. But until then, you'll just have to learn to live with it.
     
  8. Tree of Life

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    I'm not even sure that "supersessionism" really accurately describes anyone's viewpoint. I also see this as a misunderstanding of covenant theology. Does anyone willingly take this label for themselves?
     
  9. Dave-W

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    Hmmm. I could list a few posters here for you to look up; but it would be taken as an ad hominem attack.

    Perhaps if you searched on MY name and "replacement theology" you could get those quotes you like.
     
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  10. Tree of Life

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    I don't believe it's applicable now.
     
  11. Tree of Life

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    I mean from church fathers or even from any theologians.
     
  12. Dave-W

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  14. A Realist

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    ...and that misunderstanding has a name, "supersessionism".
     
  15. Tree of Life

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    Then I would also plead that people stop using the term "supersessionism".
     
  16. A Realist

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    Why? It's a valid term for people who believe in supersession.
     
  17. tampasteve

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    Sorry, can't do that - it is against forum rules to call out or take posts out of context as this would be. But you can certainly do a search, they are there.
     
  18. Dave-W

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  19. Tree of Life

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    It's a straw man. It doesn't accurately describe anyone's actual views.
     
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