Please help

[lexmhll]

Hello, as many of you know I have struggled with doubting my salvation, but here lately it has hit a new extreme.
No matter how many scriptures I read, no matter how much I pray, I cannot conquer my doubts.
I keep having bad thoughts as well, thoughts like maybe God doesn’t exist, even thought I know He does and I don’t mean any of these thoughts! But it makes me doubt even more.
Also I’ve started remembering that a couple years ago a message from the Holy Spirit was given out that God was about to remove the chance of being saved from someone. I’m worried that person was me and now I’m doomed for eternity.
No matter how many times I try to keep myself from doing it I keep praying over and over for Jesus to save me, I’ll worried I didn’t do it right the last time or wasn’t sincere enough or was doing it for the wrong reason.
If any of you can offer some help please do, I’m feel very scared and alone right now.

 

[Call me Nic]

When God rejects someone from being saved, that means that that person turns reprobate. I highly doubt you're reprobate from the simple fact that you're even worried about not being saved: true reprobates hate God and don't even think about being saved, nor do they care at all. So, there's that - meaning, if you're not saved already, you still have the chance to be saved.

Secondly, it's very easy to receive salvation as a free gift from God - its not like God wants to send you to hell: if God wanted to send people to hell, he wouldn't have provided to us his Son as the atoning sacrifice. So, the good news is that God wants you to be saved, and he made it really easy. It's a narrow path to salvation, however, because only through faith in Jesus Christ can you be saved.

You have to understand you don't deserve heaven, and that you deserve hell, but that God sent Jesus Christ to die on the cross, and rise from the dead for your sins. And all you must do to be saved is believe that.

Acts of the Apostles 16:30-31.
John 3:16.
Romans 10:9-10.
Romans 10:13.
Acts of the Apostles 2:21.
Ephesians 1:13.

Just trust God that he sent his Son to save you, and don't trust yourself. Let God be true, but every man a liar. Just keep your spirit calm and realize that God will save you through Christ if you just simply have faith that he will - that's the good news of the gospel.

 

[lexmhll]

When God rejects someone from being saved, that means that that person turns reprobate. I highly doubt you're reprobate from the simple fact that you're even worried about not being saved: true reprobates hate God and don't even think about being saved, nor do they care at all. So, there's that - meaning, if you're not saved already, you still have the chance to be saved.

Secondly, it's very easy to receive salvation as a free gift from God - its not like God wants to send you to hell: if God wanted to send people to hell, he wouldn't have provided to us his Son as the atoning sacrifice. So, the good news is that God wants you to be saved, and he made it really easy. It's a narrow path to salvation, however, because only through faith in Jesus Christ can you be saved.

You have to understand you don't deserve heaven, and that you deserve hell, but that God sent Jesus Christ to die on the cross, and rise from the dead for your sins. And all you must do to be saved is believe that.

Acts of the Apostles 16:30-31.
John 3:16.
Romans 10:9-10.
Romans 10:13.
Acts of the Apostles 2:21.
Ephesians 1:13.

Just trust God that he sent his Son to save you, and don't trust yourself. Let God be true, but every man a liar. Just keep your spirit calm and realize that God will save you through Christ if you just simply have faith that he will - that's the good news of the gospel.

Thanks for replying, I do believe and understand all that, but no matter how hard I remind myself I believe I’m worthy of hell but because of Jesus’s death and resurrection I can go to heaven and He took away my sins I still start doubting after a period of time.

 

[Grace2022]

Hello, as many of you know I have struggled with doubting my salvation, but here lately it has hit a new extreme.
No matter how many scriptures I read, no matter how much I pray, I cannot conquer my doubts.
I keep having bad thoughts as well, thoughts like maybe God doesn’t exist, even thought I know He does and I don’t mean any of these thoughts! But it makes me doubt even more.
Also I’ve started remembering that a couple years ago a message from the Holy Spirit was given out that God was about to remove the chance of being saved from someone. I’m worried that person was me and now I’m doomed for eternity.
No matter how many times I try to keep myself from doing it I keep praying over and over for Jesus to save me, I’ll worried I didn’t do it right the last time or wasn’t sincere enough or was doing it for the wrong reason.
If any of you can offer some help please do, I’m feel very scared and alone right now.

Pray simply and briefly to Lord Jesus. Admit to being a sinner, ask for mercy and say you believe in Jesus as Saviour. Be humble and have faith. Then say 'thy will be done. My life is yours Lord'. Amen. Then relax and get on with life. Believe God has heard and be confident you are saved. Keep it simple. Don't fret.

 

[Call me Nic]

Thanks for replying, I do believe and understand all that, but no matter how hard I remind myself I believe I’m worthy of hell but because of Jesus’s death and resurrection I can go to heaven and He took away my sins I still start doubting after a period of time.

Pray and ask God to help you. If you have any faith, act on it - beseech the one who provides all good things to you.

"Help thou my unbelief."

 

[amariselle]

Thanks for replying, I do believe and understand all that, but no matter how hard I remind myself I believe I’m worthy of hell but because of Jesus’s death and resurrection I can go to heaven and He took away my sins I still start doubting after a period of time.

May I ask why you start doubting? Is your doubt based on what Christ did on the cross, or on something to believe you're either doing or not doing?

I ask, because I know what it's like to get caught up in looking to myself (my behaviour) for assurance of salvation, rather than keeping my eyes firmly fixed on Jesus.

 

[PloverWing]

Doubts are fine. Doubts show that you're still asking questions, still seeking God, still wrestling with God. Most Christians have doubts. There will always be things that we don't understand about God, that we're still exploring.

We are not saved by the perfection of our belief, and we're definitely not saved by the amount of certainty we feel. We are saved by the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Christ. Even if you "didn’t do it right the last time or wasn’t sincere enough or was doing it for the wrong reason" -- even if you did it wrong in some way, Jesus did it right. Trust him.

 

[lexmhll]

May I ask why you start doubting? Is your doubt based on what Christ did on the cross, or on something to believe you're either doing or not doing?

I ask, because I know what it's like to get caught up in looking to myself (my behaviour) for assurance of salvation, rather than keeping my eyes firmly fixed on Jesus.

That’s what I do too, I also rely too much on my feelings, example “I don’t feel saved” even thought I know I shouldn’t rely on those feelings because faith isn’t a feeling. I also worry maybe I wasn’t sincere enough when I asked, even though I know I was.

 

[Bobber]

Hello, as many of you know I have struggled with doubting my salvation, but here lately it has hit a new extreme.
No matter how many scriptures I read, no matter how much I pray, I cannot conquer my doubts.

So what's your doubt? That God is a liar? That he won't do what he said he would do? If you gave your word to someone that you'd help them and be there for them how would you feel if you hear through the grape vine they're saying, "I don't know if ole Lexmhll will do what he said!" Are you're telling me you wouldn't feel insulted? So why are you putting a question mark on the integrity of God's character? It's not my intention to be mean to you if you're sincere on here and not just a troll, but I think all needs to understand what doubt really is.

 

[Bobber]

That’s what I do too, I also rely too much on my feelings, example “I don’t feel saved” even thought I know I shouldn’t rely on those feelings because faith isn’t a feeling. I also worry maybe I wasn’t sincere enough when I asked, even though I know I was.

Absolutely correct. You're relying too much on feeling. You wouldn't want people to rely on feeling when you give your word to do something correct? You want them to take you at your word for your word is your bond. Is your word your bond to you???

 

[lexmhll]

Absolutely correct. You're relying too much on feeling. You wouldn't want people to rely on feeling when you give your word to do something correct? You want them to take you at your word for your word is your bond. Is your word your bond to you???

thank you for your replies, I had never really thought of doubting being like that before! I need to remember that the Lord is not a liar and I need to trust in Him more.

 

[amariselle]

That’s what I do too, I also rely too much on my feelings, example “I don’t feel saved” even thought I know I shouldn’t rely on those feelings because faith isn’t a feeling. I also worry maybe I wasn’t sincere enough when I asked, even though I know I was.

I understand. I have definitely been there too. I have found these words, written by Paul, (inspired by the Holy Spirit) very encouraging: (Romans 7)

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Thanks be to God, that though we do struggle with sin in the "flesh", the "inner man", the new creation we are in Christ, is without sin. Christ alone has saved us who believe, and nothing can take us out of his hand. He will never leave us or forsake us.

 

[lexmhll]

I understand. I have definitely been there too. I have found these words, written by Paul, (inspired by the Holy Spirit) very encouraging: (Romans 7)

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Thanks be to God, that though we do struggle with sin in the "flesh", the "inner man", the new creation we are in Christ, is without sin. Christ alone has saved us who believe, and nothing can take us out of his hand. He will never leave us or forsake us.

Will write these verses down right now!

 

[amariselle]

Will write these verses down right now!

I pray you are encouraged in the word of God and in His faithfulness Lexmhll.

 

[amariselle]

Romans in its entirety is a wonderful letter. You may also want to read Romans 8.

 

[lexmhll]

I pray you are encouraged in the word of God and in His faithfulness Lexmhll.

thank you! God bless.

 

[Dave-W]

That’s what I do too, I also rely too much on my feelings, example “I don’t feel saved” even thought I know I shouldn’t rely on those feelings because faith isn’t a feeling. I also worry maybe I wasn’t sincere enough when I asked, even though I know I was.

So you are being duped by your own emotions.

Rely on your DECISION to follow HIM, and not how you feel about it. Emotions and feelings are fickle and will lead you astray if you let them.

Don't let them.

 

[Kevin Snow]

But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.” ~2 Timothy 2:19

Are you bearing fruit for Christ in keeping with repentance? Are you working out your salvation with fear and trembling? Are you zealous for good works? Remember that it depends on God and not on you so do this:

For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
~Matthew 25:35-40

If you are actively participating in the call of Christ which is on all of us, to make disciples of all nations in this way then you are certainly one of the children of God. Remember what John said,

Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. ~1 John 3:7

Therefore repent, depart from iniquity, practice his righteousness before all the people, serve the saints, walk in the light as he is in the light and there will be a crown of righteousness waiting for you from the Lord. Put all doubt away and mourn for the present time is evil. Seek the Lord and he will be found by you.

Don't be put off by others but you finish the course which you have in the Lord. This is what we all must do who have put off the old self and taken up the cross of our own selves, committed to the Lord to the end.

 

[DaveDavids]

Thanks for replying, I do believe and understand all that, but no matter how hard I remind myself I believe I’m worthy of hell but because of Jesus’s death and resurrection I can go to heaven and He took away my sins I still start doubting after a period of time.

I think maybe you've scared yourself unnecessarily with some things in the scriptures

" hades " ( not knowing / understanding ) refers to spiritual ignorance and is cognate to " darkness " - meaning metaphorically - to blind the mind

It's also preceded by a primary preposition in Greek and thus doesn't concretely refer to a place, as the primary preposition in Greek can refer to three separate things

~ time
~ place
~ state (of a situation)

Example:

εν ουρανος ( in heaven ) uses:

εν en {en} a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state)

Whereas when in Greek we say something is physically " in " some thing, it's a different word

Example:

επι Μωσευς καθεδρα ( in Moses' seat ) uses:

επι epi {ep-ee'} a root;; prep AV - on 196, in 120, upon 159, unto 41, to 41, misc 338; 895 1) upon, on, at, by, before 2) of position, on, at, by, over, against 3) to, over, on, at, across, against




The confusion stems from the fact that Greek texts use similar vernacular to modern day language

Example:

" He's in trouble " does not tell the reader " trouble " is a place " he " is " in ", rather a situation

Trouble not my friend, rest easy, for Christ bears the burden

 

[bcbsr]

Hello, as many of you know I have struggled with doubting my salvation, but here lately it has hit a new extreme.
No matter how many scriptures I read, no matter how much I pray, I cannot conquer my doubts.
I keep having bad thoughts as well, thoughts like maybe God doesn’t exist, even thought I know He does and I don’t mean any of these thoughts! But it makes me doubt even more.
Also I’ve started remembering that a couple years ago a message from the Holy Spirit was given out that God was about to remove the chance of being saved from someone. I’m worried that person was me and now I’m doomed for eternity.
No matter how many times I try to keep myself from doing it I keep praying over and over for Jesus to save me, I’ll worried I didn’t do it right the last time or wasn’t sincere enough or was doing it for the wrong reason.
If any of you can offer some help please do, I’m feel very scared and alone right now.

Isa 30:15 This is what the Sovereign LORD, the Holy One of Israel, says: "In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it."

Prov 3:5,6 "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight."