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Please don't forget about Western Orthodox Saints like Saint Patrick (THE ENLIGHTENER OF IRELAND)

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by Jude1:3Contendforthefaith, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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    Is there a list of overlapping western and eastern saints?
     
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  4. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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    • Saint Dymphna
    • Saint Columba of Iona
    • Saint Brigid of Kildare
    • and Saint
    Bede


    are also good Western Orthodox Saints.

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    I really like the icon. The video was informative as well.
     
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    to the OP, amen!
     
  7. All4Christ

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    Pre-schism saints typically overlap between the two. For example, my patron saint, St Laura of Córdoba was martyred in the 900s and is considered to be a saint in both Orthodoxy and Catholicism.
     
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  9. SalemsConcordance

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    Thanks!
    I was just listening to this the other day:
    In Step With Sts. Patrick and Gregory of Tours

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    ‎Homilies of Fr Seraphim Rose: D01. In Step with Sts Patrick and Gregory of Tours (Reading from a homily of Fr Seraphim Rose) on Apple Podcasts
     
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    Dymphna - OrthodoxWiki
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    The holy and glorious Virgin-martyr Dymphna (also known as Dimpna or Dympna and may be synonymous with the Irish Ss. Davets and Damhnait, Damhnade) was a 7th-century Celtic saint who died circa 650. The church commemorates her feast day May 15 and she is the patron saint of those who suffer from mental illnesses and nervous system disorders, epileptics, mental health professionals, incest victims, and runaways.

    The story of St. Dymphna has been preserved in a thirteenth century life written by a canon of the Church of St. Aubert at Cambrai and commissioned by the Bishop of Cambrai, Guy I (1238-1247). The author expressly states that his work is based upon oral tradition and a persuasive history of inexplicable and miraculous healings.[1]

    Born in Ireland, tradition holds that she was the daughter of a pagan Irish King and his Christian wife. When she was only fourteen, her mother passed away. Her father driven mad by grief and mental illness started to make awkward sexual advances towards her. She was forced to flee to Belgium accompanied by her confessor father, St. Gerebernus. Her father, Damon, sent soldiers and eventually found them. Confronting them at Gheel, he ordered his soldiers to slay Gerebernus and begged Dymphna to return with him to Ireland. When she refused, he decapitated her in a rage. Locals later buried the two bodies. A few years later, they decided to make a better burial site and found two tombs where they had buried them.

    Their relics were discovered at Gheel near Antwerp in the thirteenth century. The burial place of Dymphna has long been associated with accounts of miraculous cures of mental illness. An infirmary was built there in the 13th-century and to this day Gheel hosts a world-class sanatorium.
     
  11. AMM

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    I just looked up St Aubert, who I was not familiar with! Another good western saint. From Wikipedia, here is an example from his life of how we ought to distrust visions (which we teach in Orthodoxy still today). I thought it was a bit amusing (the part in bold) — I’m just imagining St Michael sighing, thinking of a way to prove he’s not a demon, and deciding that the best method is to thump Aubert in the head, Rafiki-and-Simba style haha.

    In 708 Aubert had a vision in which the Archangel Michael instructed him to build an oratory on the rocky tidal island at the mouth of the Couesnon.[3] Aubert did not pay attention to this vision at first, doubting it was a true vision. The archangel appeared a second time, but still Aubert hesitated, lest this be a demonic manifestation. At last in exasperation Michael appeared to him again, this time poking him in his head and ordering him to complete the task. Where the archangel touched him, Aubert was left with a hole in his skull. After this the oratory was built. It was dedicated on 16 October 709[4] Here he at first established canons; then the Benedictines. Aubert is reputed to have been buried at the oratory.​
     
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    Saint Mary of Paris [Maria Skobtsova] (1945)
    Saint Sophrony of Essex [Sergei Symeonovich Sakharov] (1993)

    I wish more came to mind
     
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    There are also (possible?*) saints who are from the point beyond 1054.

    Saint William of York whose body brought forth myrrh (d. 1154) [commemorated in the Roman and Anglican martyrologies, not Orthodox]

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    [Saint?] Richeldis de Faverches (1061), who built the Holy House for the Virgin at Walsingham, England following a series of visitations from Our Lady.


    Of course there are the classic pre-11th century saints.
    My username is the Welsh form of 'Saint David', and the image depicts him in stained glass.


    *it is not known to us the total of who are the saints of God, the Orthodox Church assures only of whom it can be certain.
     
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  16. Dewi Sant

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    As part of my present dissertation, I began getting a context for my research topic by populating a map of the UK (mainly England) with the shrines of saints.
    There are plenty of Orthodox saints among them.

    Link below:
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  17. Lukaris

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    I would think Ireland is an example of a grey area in Western Christianity since the Normans did not begin to subjugate it until the 12th century. It is probably mostly isolation & coincidence, I but I think there might be some relationships in the tendencies & consequences between the great schism and the Norman conquest of Ireland.

    I do not want to be ridiculous & say that the Irish were last bulwark of western Orthodoxy. The unfortunate outcome of the schism & the centuries of Irish plight involved plenty of secular, power politics in totally different spheres.
     
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    I think you can add Great Britain as well
     
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    Generally speaking, almost anyone before the Great Schism can be assumed to be venerated in both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches.

    Anyone within 100 years of the Schism, before or after, is worth verifying to be sure.
     
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    Oh, and from the Book of Kells:

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    Erin go bragh!
     
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