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Planned Parenthood is in Deep Trouble With the Law.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Winken, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. KCfromNC

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    But then how is the GOP going to get poor and middle class people to vote against their own best interests if politicians can't manufacture controversies to distract them with?
     
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  2. KCfromNC

    KCfromNC Regular Member

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    Factors such as?
     
  3. PreviouslySeeking...

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    I understand & accept. You quote scripture and insult because you don't want to actually deal with reality.

    Just know that the world (or at least the US) isn't going in the direction you desire, not because of us non Christians & our hedonism. Nope, it isn't going that way because the majority of Christians don't want what you do.
     
  4. GoldenBoy89

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    So is the first amendment.
     
  5. LostMarbels

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    Jesus quoted scripture, even to Satan. It's not an excuse, an insult, or a cop-op, it is an answer.

    A lot of people do not like scripture because it is authoritative, and that is seen as judgemental. Just like there is no Christian that is going to point to scripture and justify abortion for convenience. There is no scripture in support of abortion in that manner. As far as for medical reasons, life or death situations and the like, I leave that up to debate. I personally do not think God is going to condemn a woman that has to chose between her life, her child's life, or both die if the procedure is not carried out. In fact, from what I know of God, that women can expect the consolement, and compassion of God.


    My wants are meaningless. I cannot save nor condemn a single person. My will is not to be done on earth as it is in heaven. God's will is. I was bought with a price, I will therefore honor God with my body. I am also a servant, it is written that a disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. At best, a disciple can be like his master, and the servant as his lord. But we still do not have equality with them. They are still our Lord, and Master no matter how much we behave like them.

    So it is safe to say that if we never saw our Lord and Master condoning an action, and in fact, warns that harming of even one of the said group is an offence worthy of death; that he does not condone that action. And being that you are not greater than your master, you also should condemn such actions, as your master has commanded you to do.

    I do not care for the 'world'... I am in the world, but I am not of it. God is at enmity with the 'world'. I pray almost daily that God hardens my heart against this world as He had hardened Pharaoh's against Himself. I want to be as irreconcilable, reprobate and separate to this world as possible. I have placed my hand on the plow. I have considered the cost, and I have decided to follow the one true God, Jesus the Christ.
     
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  6. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN Charlee. 8 /18 / 2017

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    Sadly that will go away, And more people will get abortions.
     
  7. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN Charlee. 8 /18 / 2017

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    I see nothing wrong with mentioning abstinence. As long as they teach about condoms and birth control. But history shows teens and people still have sex. People have been getting abortions before it became legal. I rather them use BC then get an abortion. But why isn't Christians teaching their children about abstinence? Or maybe they do, and some still have sex.
     
  8. Cearbhall

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    Source? I've never heard of excluding this information from comprehensive sexual education. Perhaps not with the phrase "until marriage," because that doesn't really teach anything objective, but certainly that there's always a chance of pregnancy, and that the only way to be 100% sure is to not participate in any sexual contact that exposes the vagina to semen.

    Additionally, that lesson comes up in the topic of consent. Students are taught that they don't have to have sex, that they can wait as long as they want or not do it at all, that each person's decisions and views on sex will be shaped by their religious and cultural values, that they should get help if anyone tries to force them, etc.

    Edited to add: I'm also curious about who exactly you mean when you say "people supporting abortion." It's not as if society is broken into two clear groups of people: self-labelled pro-life people who never have abortions themselves and who try to get it criminalized, and self-labelled pro-choice people who are fine with considering abortion and having it readily available for others. That's just not how it works.
     
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  9. JonFromMinnesota

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    Your article doesn't mention the bolded part at all.
     
  10. pat34lee

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    No family lives in a vacuum, or on a desert island. And
    some parents tend to think their children should not
    learn to use BC at school, especially in grammar school.

    They fail to carry out their parental responsibilities, and
    the government is more than happy to step in and make
    things even worse.
     
  12. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN Charlee. 8 /18 / 2017

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    Then that falls on the parent. But my guess is many Christian parents are preaching don't have sex, until they get married. When they are shacking up with boyfriend of the month. Or on the next marriage. And by the way the government doesn't make it worse. At least they teach about BC. I personally think they need to teach more info on how to get BC. BTW kids need a note from a parent, to go to sex ed in 6th grade. So that's up to the parent.
     
  13. SolomonVII

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    It wasn't meant to. The bolded part was meant to show some od the aspects of sex education that is leading to a reduction in abortion. People are no longer ignorant of what unborn life means. That is a real education.

    The article was to give context to some of the other changes going on with young people. It is far more than learning how to put on a condom.
     
  14. ThatRobGuy

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    It would seem that some points of context are lost with the article (and with you if you think the women in that picture are bragging about abortion).

    The purpose of the "I had an abortion - Let's talk" thing was to get across the idea that women have all kinds of different reasons for having one, and that they're everyday people from all walks of life (mothers, wives, sisters, friends) who may have stories or things in their life that led them to that decision. They're not saying they were proud of their decision, or would've preferred not having to make the decision at all...


    As far as the article, "Life News" (no big surprise) did their usual hatchet job where they twist nearly everything out of context in order to be able to write a sensationalized headline that almost in no way reflects the view of the article they're reviewing.


    If someone talks about their experiences with drug rehabilitation, they're not suggesting that they were proud of being a drug addict at one point in their life.
     
  15. pat34lee

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    And what do the parents shown holding children tell
    them when they grow older?

    "You should be glad you were born, you had two siblings
    who weren't because they were inconvenient."
     
  16. PreviouslySeeking...

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    You assume that would be a problem. My mother had 2 abortions. The first was for medical reasons and the second was for personal ones. Why would I judge my mother for taking action that seemed necessary? I know how difficult my own childhood was - the woman had all she could handle.
     
  17. pat34lee

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    No elective abortion is necessary. There are always alternatives,
    even if it is to drop off the child at a church or orphanage.

    Most gruesome murders are more humane than abortion.
     
  18. SolomonVII

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    One Planned Parenthood medical director described altering an abortion procedure to preserve more-valuable organs: “So then you’re just kind of cognizant of where you put your graspers, you try to intentionally go above and below the thorax, so that, you know, we’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part. I’m going to basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.” Another Planned Parenthood administrator openly admitted that fetal-tissue exchange is a profit-driven enterprise for the abortion group. “The money is not important,” she said. “But it has to be big enough that it makes it worthwhile for me. . . . It’s been years since I’ve talked about compensation, so let me just figure out what others are getting and if this is in the ballpark, that’s fine. If it’s still low, we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini.” All of the videos contain abundant examples of quotes like these ones. They aren’t “taken out of context.” They aren’t “deceptively edited.” These are truthful statements, present in the full footage, spoken by Planned Parenthood’s own employees. The subsequent House investigation of the entire industry confirmed much of what was revealed in these videos. The panel found that biotech firms such as StemExpress — which has itself been referred to federal agencies for further investigation — explicitly market themselves to abortion clinics as partners that can help drive up profit margins for the clinics.

    Read more at: No, the DOJ Investigation of Planned Parenthood Is Not a Witch Hunt
     
  19. Ovlov90

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    This nation is swimming in the blood of the victems of child sacrefice. A sacreficial system that will never satisfy the gods demand it.
     
  20. DogmaHunter

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    You mean, flying in the face of your personal view of what god is.

    But you don't live in a theocracy. Your personal view of what god is, is irrelevant when it comes to politics.
     
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