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Philadelphia Phillies To Host Gay Day...

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by silas, Aug 9, 2003.

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  1. kdet

    kdet God lives in us

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    I'm sorry my intention wasn't to demean you..sorry you took it that way.
     
  2. Inspired

    Inspired only hurts when I breathe

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    You have called homosexuals pedophiles, you have said they are sick and preverted, you say they have no idea how to act in public, and you say we have sex in public, now you know I am a homosexual, and I have repeatedly tried to get you to realized that you are judging me based on the actions of others, but you refuse to listen, but you apologize for correcting my spelling.
     
  3. kdet

    kdet God lives in us

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    Christians are called to judge righteously

    “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.” - Matthew 7:1-5
    You see – the verse actually ends up instructing us to “cast the beam out of our own eye” FIRST, BEFORE “pulling the mote out of our brother’s eye” – NOT “Don’t ever pull the mote out of your brother’s eye”. What Jesus was saying here is that others will judge us by the same standard we judge them so, DON’T BE A HYPOCRITE! Of course, the Christian life is not about pointing fingers at each other but neither is it an all-access pass to free-for-all living in Jesus’ name.
    Another verse of scripture often used inaccurately to support the fictitious commandment: “Thou shalt not judge.” is John 8:7b, where Jesus, addressing religious leaders concerning the woman caught in adultery, said: “…He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...” Again, liberals and well-meaning Christians alike stop and read no further than the word “stone”, leaving the false impression that adultery really isn’t such big deal after all and maybe sin in general isn’t as bad as we once thought.
    Was Jesus telling them to keep their silence concerning adultery and be more tolerant of sin? NO! He was again teaching them to not be hypocrites – sending the woman away with specific instructions to “sin no more”. (i.e., Stop your adulterous ways and repent) A very judgmental remark by today’s standards, don’t you think?
    If there is to be no judging among Christians, how could we even have a legislative or judicial branch of government in this country? How could we be a responsible parent, a good teacher, a fair employer, a helpful counselor, an effective policeman, a powerful preacher, an accurate journalist or even a faithful friend? If judging others is as unchristian as today’s liberal claims it is, how do you explain the often harsh and intolerant language of God’s most faithful from the New Testament?
    (John the Baptist to King Herod): “It is not lawful for thee to have thy brother's wife.” - Mark 6:18
    (The Apostle Paul): “When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong.” - Galatians 2:11
    (Stephen, speaking to the religious leaders before they stoned him to death):
    “Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.” – Acts 7:51-53
    (Jesus addressing the religious leaders):
    “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.” - Matthew 23:27
    “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” - Matthew 23:33
    “O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?” - Matthew 3:7b
    “O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.” - Matthew 12:34
    And what about Jesus taking a whip to all of the moneychangers in the temple there in Matthew 21:12 and Mark 11:15? That’s about as judgmental as it gets short of execution. If this doesn't sound like the Jesus you know, it may be that you've been worshiping and serving the wrong God.
    For those of you who are still unconvinced – read here what the Apostle Paul had to say about Christians judging others:
    “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life” - 1st Corinthians 6:2-3

    Paul Procter
     
  4. kdet

    kdet God lives in us

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    I haven't judged YOU at all..if you don't do any of those things then my statements don't apply to YOU do they??
     
  5. Inspired

    Inspired only hurts when I breathe

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    You say homosexuals, I am one.

    If I said Christians are homphobes, I would be implying all.
     
  6. feral

    feral Dostoyevsky was right

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    you have a lot of hatred, it seems, for someone on a christian chat. you've met homosexuals? sure, we all have. have you ever befriended one, cleaned them up after a gang of macho drunks beat them up, apparently imtimidated? ever bothered to ask someone who is gay for their history, why the think they were either born that way or choose it? once you do that you might not be so caught up with stereotypes. all homosexual people are not the same.

    deprived darlings...not exactly. but i can still understand the atmosphere of permissiveness, given that a couple could go out in public without being spit on or gawked at, or worse. i can't see that being a problem. clearly, with so many people up in arms over gay days, the public must be aware and know not to bring the kiddies that day. perhaps disney should advertise it instead of allowing it to happen but not sponsoring it.

    honestly, you don't need excuses. no excuse will be good enough for you to back down and accept that some people don't believe your god exists, believe your bible is rubbish, and want nothing to do with you values. why bother to care about these people, hmm? just because jesus walked with sinners, treated them like equals, encouraged them to change while loving them regardles doesn't mean you have to. why stoop to his level..?
     
  7. Blessed-one

    Blessed-one a long journey ahead

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    due to the repeated violations of rule 1: no flaming.
    this thread is now closed.
     
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