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Personal Observation on the politics of New York State

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by hislegacy, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. hislegacy

    hislegacy This is me.

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    In a typical year I do a fair amount of traveling. With the international trips, i average 220,000 to 300,000 miles a year. (Gotta Love American Airlines!). This far in 2020 my trips to Greece, Thessaloniki, Albania, Germany, the Netherlands and now Cairo are canceled due to Covid - yippee.

    I had a trip scheduled to New York August 9th, landing in Rochester and traveling from there to three cities. My host called me and informed me that we had to reschedule because Oklahoma in on the travel restrictions for NY. If I did fly in, I would be pulled aside by TSA on arriving and required to sign a two week voluntary quarantine agreement before going any place but my hotel. The hotel would be informed and if I leave before the two weeks I would be fined between 2,000 and 10,000.

    New York State is coordinating with TSA and Hotel owners in monitoring travelers. Last time I had this type of scrutiny was in the early 90's in the Ukraine.

    I'm informed there are 30 States in this travel restrictions. I can't imagine businesses sending anyone there. I wonder how much of this has to do with the 30,000,000,000 deficit they are experiencing.
     
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  2. CitizenD

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    I wonder if it has more to do with the soul-crushing wave one they experienced?
     
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  3. Aryeh Jay

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    Who would have thought that the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, would allow the Federal TSA to enforce an Executive Order given by a Democratic State Governor?
     
  4. hislegacy

    hislegacy This is me.

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    The President has always promoted the Governors controlling their states. It is one thing the Democrats have been complaining about - not having a national plan, but every state acting on it's own.
     
  5. hislegacy

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    I am not going to nursing homes - that is where the bulk of deaths happened.
     
  6. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    Good. Of course, you should do a 14 day quarantine. When you entered different states or countries. I know people ,that had a 14 day quarantine in Florida and China. And they should be enforced. I wish this was enforced before January 2020. Which I thought it was .
     
  7. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    No he hasn't. He says one thing on the news and says something else on Twitter. He told his supporter to protest against Governor shut downs.
     
  8. Tanj

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    ...and the non-bulk are less important than the economy, apparently. I'll ask you the same thing I have asked others, is there any life not in a uterus that is a part of your pro-life stance? Any at all? Isn't sacrificing humans on the altar of economy the worship of mammon?
     
  9. GoldenBoy89

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    It probably has to do with the tens of thousands of New Yorkers that have died as a result of the spreading virus. Makes sense that they’ve learned from their mistakes from earlier in the pandemic and are doing what they can to avoid another massive tragedy.
     
  10. Belk

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    I am going to guess a minute to non-existent amount. I don't know if you have much experience with budgets but deficits in a given budget year would be due to expenses. Now if you want to talk next budget year it might have a possible effect but I don't know how much given that the taxes would be levied on a downtown businesses, not the business traveler who is visiting.
     
  11. lasthero

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    The ‘bulk’? What percentage of deaths were from nursing homes?
     
  12. HannahT

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    Honestly? We may never know.

    According to current stats - which are current - 32,422 total deaths. They did have an uproar when the governor signed an EO demanding the homes take in Covid patients.

    Like many government agencies? These numbers may never be accurate, because if someone doesn't like the way they look? They tend to disappear or are skewed. Many patients were sent to hospital with covid and died there, and yet they don't have numbers for that. lol they do but they won't give them up no doubt.
     
  13. ArmenianJohn

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    NY State needs to protect itself and the region from travelers who are coming from states with out-of-control infection rates. This region has gone through the worst of it and figured out how to keep the numbers down.

    NY State also understands business better than anyone - after all, it is the home of Wall Street and capital of several major industries, including finance and banking. Therefore, NY State understands that the best thing for an economy is to keep a pandemic like Covid-19 in check. As hard as it may be on the economy, it would be even harder on the economy to just allow visitors to travel around the state willy-nilly.

    What's more, when you look at the restricted states on NY's list, most of them are not states that really do a lot of business, especially with NY State (or City) anyway. Most of those states on the list actually just receive a form of welfare/socialism from the massive fortunes that NY State earns in productivity. NY pays billions in taxes to the Federal government who in turn redistributes the wealth to most of those states on the restricted list. So if this were to reduce the number of travelers from those states to NY, it really isn't a big group of travelers to begin with, except really California - not much business lost.
     
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  14. Fantine

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    NY is reopening successfully and carefully. They don't want to find themselves in the position of Florida or Texas. If they did not take precautions they would have to shut down again.

    And every state will experience shortfalls. That is why the Democratic Heroes Act allocates assistance for states.
     
  15. wing2000

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    ...and your point is?
     
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