• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Perhaps the opposite of praise?

edmund_fitzgerald

Active Member
Aug 15, 2015
31
6
73
✟24,035.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
I have been given to understand from an ordained Presbyterian minister that it's OK to be angry with God: He is of course infinite and understands human anger.

That said, I am beyond angry-blindingly furious-at the moment. A close family member has worked exceedingly hard to re-make his career in a noble endeavor (a first responder) and is simultaneously dealing with health problems incurred while serving overseas in the armed services. And for this, what does he get? To be put on medical leave for the foreseeable future, while dealing with the sluggish VA machinery, and dealing with workplace drama not of his creation in the bargain.

This can have clear financial and career implications, which have impacts on my grandchildren. Therefore, I left anger in the rear view mirror about 40 miles back, am passing furious, and approaching volcanic. I want to know why this has been allowed to happen; I want this resolved completely at a minimum; I want answers and I want them yesterday. And to be told something along the lines of "be patient"; "wait and see" will only infuriate me further: that comes across as patronizing and condescending. This is the welfare of four children I'm talking about ultimately, so nothing short of having this family member made whole will satisfy me--and that's the minimum.

I've expressed my outrage in prayer. At the moment I don't know what else to do except ask for prayers, and it'll be difficult since I can't / won't reveal details in the interests of privacy, and since it'll be difficult to contain my outrage. So now what?
 

Brotherly Spirit

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Feb 22, 2017
1,079
818
36
Virginia
✟246,969.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
The best way to understand God, is he gave us life and now were to live it. It's not always easy being alive in this world, where both good and bad can happen. How he gives the good meaning and worth, is having the bad for comparison. Else there wouldn't be any point to life here.

Sorry your family is having a rough time. Sometimes life isn't fair, all we can do is have hope and try to deal with what happens. I'll pray for ya'll, hope the Lord helps anyway possible.
 
Upvote 0

edmund_fitzgerald

Active Member
Aug 15, 2015
31
6
73
✟24,035.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
I don't know much about your situation as you want to keep things private some. Is this person your son, since you mentioned it impacting your grandchildren? We also don't know what kind of
health problems you are wanting God Almighty to heal for this person. He is a rescue person? You stated - first responder. Is he a Christian? God bless those kind of people that put their lives on the line consistently for others. They sure have helped me at times.
No comment on the first question. Second question: incurred overseas in the service of the US; let's say causes chronic pain and leave it at that. Third question: yes; an EMT. Fourth question: yes.
 
Upvote 0

edmund_fitzgerald

Active Member
Aug 15, 2015
31
6
73
✟24,035.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Good to hear from you. Chronic pain is horrible. I used to have it both of my eyes. Can tell
you was very ill many years ago, and it happened because I had helped a little
girl. It caused me to be outside and get covered with Medfly spray/containing malathion. About 12 hours later began a fight for my life as things just kept happening. This is why I very much
appreciate those on rescue and at hospitals. Never was angry at God, but did ask Him to just
please not take my joy. Not sure how long your family member has been ill, but God is our strength. He can and does heal.
Angry? Like I said, I left angry in the rear view mirror 40 miles ago. I know I was nowhere when the universe was created by sheer will--but nonetheless I want resolution, I want people made whole and then some, and I want these yesterday.
 
Upvote 0

edmund_fitzgerald

Active Member
Aug 15, 2015
31
6
73
✟24,035.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Your point? Perhaps it's that I have a precedent and therefore a legitimate beef? Or are you saying that because I don't have the privilege of speaking to God face to face as did Moses, I'm out of line? I can say this: when things are finally resolved, my reaction will be a mix of gratitude and "it's about time" exasperation. Right now, which is in the majority is up for grabs.
 
Upvote 0

friend of

A private in Gods army
Site Supporter
Dec 28, 2016
5,956
4,229
provincial
✟1,014,654.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Really sorry to hear that and I apologize beforehand if this comes off as patronizing, but concerning the children, are you doing everything you can to ensure that they will be alright in this? Having their basic needs met like shelter and food? Are you prepared to help out financially, even if it takes you to the brink yourself, if need be?

God bless you and your family and your close family member for his selfless lifestyle toward others.
 
Upvote 0

edmund_fitzgerald

Active Member
Aug 15, 2015
31
6
73
✟24,035.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Really sorry to hear that and I apologize beforehand if this comes off as patronizing, but concerning the children, are you doing everything you can to ensure that they will be alright in this? Having their basic needs met like shelter and food? Are you prepared to help out financially, even if it takes you to the brink yourself, if need be?

God bless you and your family and your close family member for his selfless lifestyle toward others.
Without question, yes. My grandchildren, to put it baldly, constitute my sole reason for wanting to continue to live. Remove them and I would be completely indifferent to life and living at best. But I digress.

Their basic needs are met and then some: I say that because I've seen that situation first-hand. I'm entirely prepared to take them in if the situation warrants. The key is going to be the parents asking for help.
 
Upvote 0