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Pentecostals and Charismatics: Their Differences and Similarities

Discussion in 'Spirit-Filled / Charismatic' started by Spirit of Pentecost, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    Then clearly you are NOT United Pentecostal Oneness. (by far the largest group) They believe that if you are baptized:

    "in the name of the father
    the name of the son
    and the name of the holy Spirit"

    as you have written it is an invalid baptism and cannot be re-done. You are eternally doomed.
    It is THAT errant doctrine that Dr Prince puts to rest.
     
  2. Alithis

    Alithis Disciple of Jesus .

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    lol no I'm not oneness.
    but also I'm not afraid of re-baptism. we saw it in the book of acts. many many many are not truly baptised the first time. not into Christ and mostly without repentance (They carry on practicing their sin ) true baptism is not into a denomination and is only with repentance and is given God's approving with the seal of his holy spirit baptism evidenced by tongues. (But tongues do not mean a person is validated if they turn back to sin..the gift ability isn't removed. but becomes a testimony against their sinful life and they will perish in their sin If they don't stop it.
     
  3. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Pentecostalism is an outgrowth of the Holiness tradition, and has that sort of theology, and was mostly restricted to a particular social class. Whereas charismatics came from a variety of different traditions.
     
  4. Senkaku

    Senkaku Shatter the Illusion

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    I always wondered this myself. From my experience I have seen the biggest difference is in the doctrine of the five fold ministry. I was at a Pentecostal church for the first 10 years of being born again and they believed in pretty much everything except that the office of the prophet and apostle are no longer active. other charismatic churches I have been to usually just take everything the bible has to offer...can't tell if it's a denominational thing or a maturity thing.
     
  5. Simon Peter

    Simon Peter 14th Generation PROTESTant

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    Here are the differences.
    But please keep in mind these are the historical, classical and stereotyped differences, therefore there are many exceptions.

    Roots
    Pentecostal: 1906 - Azusa Street Revival 1906
    Charismatic: 1960s and 1970s - The Jesus Movement (US)

    Sovereignty of God
    Pentecostal: Arminianist - you mostly determine the course of your life
    Charismatic: Calvinist - God mostly determines the course of your life

    End Times
    Pentecostal: Pre-Tribulation - The world facing severe future judgment
    Charismatic: Post-Tribulation - The Church will overcome the world - Replacement Theology

    Tithing
    Pentecostal: More strongly encourage tithing
    Charismatic: Less likely to encourage tithing

    Healing
    Pentecostal: Believe physical healing is in the atonement
    Charismatic: Believe in healing, but it's not always God's will

    Holy Spirit
    Pentecostal: Speaking in Tongues is the evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit
    Charismatic: Tongues is practiced, but is not the only evidence
     
  6. Spirit of Pentecost

    Spirit of Pentecost Acts 2:38 Salvation

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    I actually like this. Very informative, but not too detailed. From what I know about both movements, this pretty much sums them up. Thanks! :)
     
  7. Simon Peter

    Simon Peter 14th Generation PROTESTant

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    To give some background here, this wasn't a 'shoot from the hip guessimate' of the differences between Pentecostal and Charismatic. I have researched this subject extensively over the years, and have attended numerous Charismatic and Pentecostal churches in three countries, which is why I posted.

    I hope it helps you in your own journey...
     
  8. Simon Peter

    Simon Peter 14th Generation PROTESTant

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    I should add another :

    Worship Style
    Pentecostal: More formal, with a more formal dress code (suits in the pulpit are common)
    Charismatic: Less formal, with a less formal dress code (jeans and T-shirts in the pulpit are common)
     
  9. Spirit of Pentecost

    Spirit of Pentecost Acts 2:38 Salvation

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    Yes, this was very helpful. Thank you.
     
  10. Humble me Lord

    Humble me Lord Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Hello all, fairly new to CF
    This thread is very fascinating and informative.
    I am not into big fancy words, but I am smart enough to understand what I read. I have been curious about my "identity" for a while.
    A little background : grew up in churches, Baptist, Lutheran mostly, accepted Christ as a teenager, but didn't truly accept him till mid-life and have grown tremendously in my walk with Jesus.
    So, non-denom because I don't know where I belong. In reading many, many church doctrines, I can't find one that truly I totally agree with, as I suppose many christians do. Basically I believe the bible is the true word of God, the bible is the bottom line. I do believe the gifts of the spirit did not pass away.
    Any help / input would be greatly appreciated
    God Bless
     
  11. Simon Peter

    Simon Peter 14th Generation PROTESTant

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    Post what you believe, and I'll probably be able to tell you which church/denomination you most closely aligned with.

    But let's start new thread, as this goes off topic a little:

    Determining What You Believe



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  12. Spirit of Pentecost

    Spirit of Pentecost Acts 2:38 Salvation

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    In response to the much earlier posts about the "solid doctrines" being found more commonly among the Pentecostals and Charismatics, I have some words to throw in there.

    From what I gather, classical Pentecostals (Assemblies of God, Church of God, Foursquare Church, etc) were all off-shoots of the Wesleyan Holiness movement, while the modern-day Oneness Pentecostal movement is credited to having came from a disagreement over the Trinitarian theology sometime around 1914. Trinitarian and Oneness Pentecostals generally had the same exact beliefs, expect for their differing views on the nature of the Godhead. They both believe tongues as the initial sign of Spirit baptism, and both initially practiced certain "holiness standards" in personal dress and everyday conduct. Most Trinitarian Pentecostals have gotten rid of certain holiness standards (for some reasons not always made clear), while some Trinitarian Pentecostals, and particularly the Oneness adherents hold to them rather strictly.

    As for the Charismatics (and Neo-Charismatics), it seems, at least from my perspective, that their doctrines and/or beliefs are generally broader, therefore accepting more teachings common within multiple denominations. Charismatics are still often found within traditional mainline churches, while others have started their own.
     
  13. Biblicist

    Biblicist Full Gospel believer

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    One of the troubles with producing a list such as the one that you have provided, where you wisely stated that there are many exceptions to your list, is that the list itself probably only reflects the position that is found within North America, which makes up only a small component of the worldwide Body of Christ and of course most Pentecostals are located outside of the USA as well.

    In various places, such as with Chile and Germany most Pentecostals do not accept that the classic Pentecostal understanding of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit; in the USA most Charismatics would still be Arminian in outlook where there are certainly many neo or New-Calvinists who are Charismatics.

    To show both how complex and difficult any analysis of the worldwide Pentecostal and Charismatic movements can be, the following is a list of the books that I own on the subject where the titles should give an indication of the complexity that I referred to. I should point out that even though I have about 85 books that it hardly makes me an authority on the issue particularly when I doubt if I have been able to read more than maybe 5% of the material.

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