Pensacola Christian College

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Whatever you do in life, from being a company CEO to scrubbing toilets, the best thing to do is to get a higher education. You could jump right into being a missionary in Canuckistanbodia, but do you think that maybe the Lord could use you in a lot more places if you get more preparation. A sharpened, prepared instrument in the hand of God can do great and terrible things.

I even thought that I didn't need to go to college to be in a ministerial field, but I was as wrong as I could possible be. College, wherever you go, opens yourself up to an amazing amount of learning about the world and about yourself. In this day and age, people do all kinds of self-destruction by not bettering themselves with education.

(just my humble opinion, if it helps)
 
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oakie said:
And another thing. I've seen some advocate "just jumping in" and not even going to college. Come on! This is 2005!! Whatever you do in life, from being a company CEO to scrubbing toilets, the best thing to do is to get a higher education. In this day and age, people do all kinds of self-destruction by not bettering themselves with education.

Yeah, that was me. There is really no need to reprimand me, I'm IN college, and I wish for her to do the same. I was absolutely not telling her NOT to go to college. I was being sarcastic (I know I've got a secret personally & she recognizes my humor). What I meant was, if PCC is your only goal, then why even bother going since I (along with many others) don't consider it a real college. How will a degree from a non accredited school get you anywhere, unless, as you so eloquently put it, her goal is to scrub toilets. She (and anyone else who would go) can do much better. Even you, while advising her to go to PCC said that you didn't really enjoy it and that they have "silly" rules. Several of my friends here received a lot of mail from PCC during their college searches, or as my friends called it, "false advertising." The enticing pictures of the beach and the premise of a Christian school nearly had them swayed until they heard the truth from others. PCC, as we understand it, is comprised of legalistic hypocrites.
 
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It was not my intention to reprimand, sorry about that. I reread my post and that may be the way it sounded, so I edited it.

I'm am not advising her to go or to not go to PCC. Although its degrees are not accredited, their nursing students are in demand and find jobs easily. Their academics, I believe, are top notch, and their education graduates can easily get jobs in Christian schools. Although their ministerial program isn't that great, many students go on to be successful pastors, evangelists, and missionaries.

Most people have problems with the rules system. You cannot go to a local church, but you must attend their Campus Church. There is absolutely no touching between men and women. If you want to go off campus, you must sign out to the exact place that you want to go. They have a demerit system, and so on and on. Long dresses and pantyhose are secondary issues if you are following the Lord's leading in your life.

People who go to PCC are not worried about that. PCC is not a place to just hang out and have fun, although that does happen. PCC is a place to prepare for Christian ministry. I personally believe God does use the school for preparing people, but a student is going to be utterly miserable if he doesn't want to be there.

I'm trying to look at the college objectively, and give a good synopsis. If one wants to prepare for Christian service, or just maybe go for a semester or two for a bit of ministerial training, it is a good, real college to go to. If one plans to work in a public company, an unaccredited degree from a Christian college won't get you very far.

As I have said before, I personally had problems with the college. Yes, hypocrisy is rampant, and the rules will rub you the wrong way if you let them. No place is perfect, especially not PCC.
 
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Shayla, Oakie, between the two of you you can probably start some sort of College review team, I dunno. I like how you, oakie put the whole thing.... it's not a place to just hang out it's to prepare people for ministry. Hmmm... That's what I want to do and MAYBE make some friends along the way.
 
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just wondering. could the problem lie in the person and not the college? great people who preach God's word have come out of that college. im sure pcc has their faults but will you let a dress code and some rules harden your heart and perhaps keep you from knowing God more than you ever had before? honestly they're just clothes, and its just a few rules. some of us will have to wear ties to work everyday if you go that type of direction.
 
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jjoel said:
just wondering. could the problem lie in the person and not the college? great people who preach God's word have come out of that college. im sure pcc has their faults but will you let a dress code and some rules harden your heart and perhaps keep you from knowing God more than you ever had before? honestly they're just clothes, and its just a few rules. some of us will have to wear ties to work everyday if you go that type of direction.

It's more than "just a few rules".
 
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jjoel said:
just wondering. could the problem lie in the person and not the college? great people who preach God's word have come out of that college. im sure pcc has their faults but will you let a dress code and some rules harden your heart and perhaps keep you from knowing God more than you ever had before? honestly they're just clothes, and its just a few rules. some of us will have to wear ties to work everyday if you go that type of direction.

Rules that are strict are good... if you start off with the intention of not liking them and not wanting anything to do with them you're already doomew.
 
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Actually, the number of, and nature of, rules at Christian colleges varies quite a bit.

Some have extensive dress codes, some have almost none.

Some have hours on dorms and others have no hours.

Some require chapel, and some don't.

Some have rules about what kind and when you can listen to music and others don't.

Christian colleges have a lot in common, but they are also very different in other ways.
 
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You're both crazy :kiss:
No I'm serious. The rules were so strict that his stress over them was causing a communication gap with him and his mom, and she could tell that it was something serious. Type in "Pensacola Christian College" on google and see for yourself. There are tons of rules they don't tell you until you sign up, and even then you don't know about them because they rush you through the paperwork. I'm serious, find another school.
 
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oakie said:
Any Christian college you go to is going to have lots of rules.
Not necessarily, it usually depends on the denomination of Christianity that the school follows.
 
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No I'm serious. The rules were so strict that his stress over them was causing a communication gap with him and his mom, and she could tell that it was something serious. Type in "Pensacola Christian College" on google and see for yourself. There are tons of rules they don't tell you until you sign up, and even then you don't know about them because they rush you through the paperwork. I'm serious, find another school.

Why are their so many people I talk to who are going there now or who have graduated that love it? Communication gap is already there between me and my mom. I believe I'm going to love it there... I'm meeting a bunch of people online who go and I've met people who went, left and wound up in worse.... wishing they were back at PCC. I absolutely can't wait to get there.... I'm optimistic, I know... rules don't bother me. I was raised in an extremely conservative Fundamental Baptist home.... It's only recently lightened up, so the rules are not what I'm worried about... the lack of locks is not what i'm worried about, anything important will be locked in a small firebox (money, financial stuff, health stuff ect.) dress codes don't bother me... if they're not specific and forced than it becomes to relaxed and immodest.
 
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MrDude is correct. Authoritarian situations invite rebellion statistically much, much more than authoritative situations, which invite the least amont.
That made virtually no sense to me... It could however be because of the lack of sleep last night and the even greater lack of it I'll be suffering tonight.
 
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Going to that PCC rules site made me appreciate my school so much more. While we are a Christian college, we are on the "liberal" side when it comes to rules. We do have a required number of chapels, but that's probably the "biggest" rule. You can go off campus whenever & where ever you want. People go to class barefoot on skateboards & wear *gasp* two piece bathing suits... We have visiting hours for "members of the opposite sex," during which you can be alone in their room, as long as you have a shoe or something propping the door open. Perhaps the best thing when compared to PCC is, there are no limitations on music. At PCC even our worship music would be banned!
By the time we reach college age, we are supposed to be adults. The whole leaving home and going to college thing symbolize that we are trust worthy enough to be independant and make our own choices, helping to shape us into self reliant adults. How can PCC do this when every aspect of your life is regulated?
My friends and I have experienced tremendous growth here as a result of being independant. So many people say the same thing. When they were at home, they did things because their parents told them to. Upon coming to college, they had to start their own lives. When they woke up Sunday morning, they could either go to church or not, they could say grace at meals, or not, they could read their Bible every day, or not...
It was time to seperate themselves from their parent's Christianity and start their own. Find a church that's good for you, not your parents, decide on your own whether to watch a movie, clean your room, do laundry/dishes,etc. I can't imagine going to a school where decisions and rules are forced upon you, leaving no room for independent thought, growth, maturity...
 
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Shayla... two things.... First, I'm not going to prison. Second... how can you judge something you've only heard about second hand? I talk to people who are there right now... It's not as bad as you think.
 
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