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PaladinValer said:
Blitz, I was referring to what I've God a Secret thinks it means.

I've Got a Secret, missionaries, if paid at all (are they even paid at all? The good ones shouldn't IMO), probably don't make much.

What you need is an actual fully-accredited degree that will get you somewhere in life.

As a missionary, you don't get paid, no (just enough support for food and travel ect.) but anyway, what do mean get me somewhere in life..? Do you mean something to fall back on?
 
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PaladinValer said:
That isn't what being non-accredited means.

???? Of course it is! It means that an accrediting body has not given their stamp of approval to a school. Sometimes that is becasue the school has not requested such accredition because they do not desire it. Sometimes it is becasue they know they will not receive it or know that they are not yet able to receive it, but hope to in the near future. Others simply don't pass muster. When is school is unaccredited, it is unknown why it is not.

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I've Got a Secret, missionaries, if paid at all (are they even paid at all? The good ones shouldn't IMO), probably don't make much.QUOTE]

So much for the Bible which says the laborer is worthy of his hire! Are pastors to be paid? Music ministers? Chruch counselors? Why not missionaries?
 
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I've Got a Secret said:
It doesn't matter to me.... I'm going to be a missionary, my only issue would be trying to transfer... most mission boards accept non-accredited schools as well.... so whether it is accredited or not doesn't matter.

I've been thinking about it...if you absolutely feel led to be a missionary and money doesn't matter, you don't need a back-up plan...etc...and PCC isn't accredited anyway...then why even go? If that's how you feel, why not just skip the whole thing, save some $, and get right out on the field? A degree isn't required to be a missionary is it? Are you just going to PCC for kicks?
 
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Even so...

Just remember this - Paul was a tentmaker. He was probably one of THE greatest missionaries this world has ever seen, and he STILL had something to help bring money in.

Just keep that there. There will be times you may be on furlough back in your country, and you're going to need money at that point, that I think is entirely unethical to be garnering your 'support funds' for.

I've seen a few people try this (use the support money that they given for the mission field on their expenses during furlough), and it's entirely unethical in my opinion.

There is no shame in ensuring you have a 'tentmaking' occupation as well, during your time on the mission field... :)

God bless!

Sasch
 
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Sascha Fitzpatrick said:
Even so...

Just remember this - Paul was a tentmaker. He was probably one of THE greatest missionaries this world has ever seen, and he STILL had something to help bring money in.

Just keep that there. There will be times you may be on furlough back in your country, and you're going to need money at that point, that I think is entirely unethical to be garnering your 'support funds' for.

I've seen a few people try this (use the support money that they given for the mission field on their expenses during furlough), and it's entirely unethical in my opinion.

There is no shame in ensuring you have a 'tentmaking' occupation as well, during your time on the mission field... :)

God bless!

Sasch

Don't need to be college educated for tent making ;)
 
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madame_queen said:
I've been thinking about it...if you absolutely feel led to be a missionary and money doesn't matter, you don't need a back-up plan...etc...and PCC isn't accredited anyway...then why even go? If that's how you feel, why not just skip the whole thing, save some $, and get right out on the field? A degree isn't required to be a missionary is it? Are you just going to PCC for kicks?

I'm going for the deeper part of all this... The foundational Biblical eduacation deep Biblical insight... ya know what, Shy? You're typing as if you don't know me and are giving me random advice from a stranger :D
Anyway, I want something more strict and disciplined because it is important on the mission field to have that sort of "rigid experiance" especially when deeling with foreign missions. Not to mention I need to take a language course (thinking on Spanish, covers most of the world these days) and I'll be taking a minor for experience (which, I may mention, I could probably use without it being credited).... PLUS I'm still considering and waiting on a response for BBC.... Don't forget that.
 
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Tent-making however was in demand and paid reasonably well.

Today, if you want to make a descent living, you either need to learn a trade (which means apprenticeship) or a degree.

Blitz, again, you're missing the point of my posts. And as for paid religious workers, that's up to the canons or rules/laws of that particular church or denomination (or even just the local parish in some cases, especially in denominations of a congregational-type governance): some do and some do not. My Anglican Church does have a paid clergy, but other Christian groups may not pay their clerics a dime and expect them to make their own money.

In addition, I would think that the richest payment a cleric could receive is that of simply "feeding the sheep." A cleric who desires money from the parish/denomination/church for their job shouldn't be a cleric in the first place. Money may be given in my church and other churches, denominations, etc, but our priests (and their priests or pastors) don't see it as their "real" payment. That comes from God.
 
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You're absolutely right... and as a full-time missionary being paid would feel like I'm not in full service... why would I need to get paid for serving God? He will provide an oppurtunity for me... he's led me this far He'll surely keep leading.
 
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PaladinValer said:
A cleric who desires money from the parish/denomination/church for their job shouldn't be a cleric in the first place.

Oh, come on! The cleric has got to buy deoderant and PJs!

Let's hope that money is not the prime motivation of anyone at any level of ministry, but precious few people are able to live without having some sort of income or some way of providing for themselves the basic necessities of life. If you are living off a trust fund, more power to you, but most of us don't.
 
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PaladinValer said:
Blitz, I was referring to what I've God a Secret thinks it means.

I've Got a Secret, missionaries, if paid at all (are they even paid at all? The good ones shouldn't IMO), probably don't make much.

What you need is an actual fully-accredited degree that will get you somewhere in life.

My bad. :)

Blitz, again, you're missing the point of my posts. And as for paid religious workers, that's up to the canons or rules/laws of that particular church or denomination (or even just the local parish in some cases, especially in denominations of a congregational-type governance): some do and some do not. My Anglican Church does have a paid clergy, but other Christian groups may not pay their clerics a dime and expect them to make their own money.
Eh? Who me? Must be that darn doppleganger.. :)

I for one am glad clergy are paid. You wouldn't want me living next to the highway in a cardboard box would you? ;)
 
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No worries, Blitz ;)

**Kills the evil doppleganger**

Clerics should be paid, I agree; being a cleric (especially for liturgical/apostolic churches like the Vatican Catholic Church, my Anglican Church, etc) is a fulltime job without time usually for another carrier usually, especially if you are the rector.

Missionaries however, IMO, should be a fully voluntary job.
 
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I've Got a Secret said:
I'm going for the deeper part of all this... The foundational Biblical eduacation deep Biblical insight... ya know what, Shy? You're typing as if you don't know me and are giving me random advice from a stranger :D
You saying I'm not deep? I beg to differ. Anyway, I'm not giving you "random advice". If I had known all this about PCC while I was still at home, I would have told you the same things in person. I'm sorry if you feel I was being cold and inpersonal. If you want to go...go. It's your decision.
On a lighter note (much lighter) my friend Chris & I had a good time reading the student reviews and are planning a trip down to visit, breaking as many rules as we can in the process. He wants to wear boxers and a tie...
 
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I'm sorry, but I just fail to see the importance of girls wearing skirts and pantyhose every day... Just sounds like some moronic rule that makes no sense to me.

My boyfriend has a FAR harder time with lust (as do a lot of guys I know) when a girl wears a skirt, compared with jeans - so anything that says 'oh it will inspire lust for a girl to wear pants' is just laughable to me. And I fail to see how pantyhose makes a girl more feminine - I'm far more likely to be grouchy if I'm in them! :p

And having to have a chaperone on any excursion outside the college with a member of the opposite sex??? ^_^ Guess the fact that I am closer to guys as friends than girls wouldn't fit in, would it???

I can't believe this is allowed in a college - at 18 you are legally an adult, so these extreme rules are just begging to be broken (unless you are a fearful, sheltered conservative - which I guess this place caters for)... Try this in Australia at a college (every university here HAS to be accredited), and you'd be booted quick smart!

I think it would take me less than a day to get enough demerits for suspension...

Sasch
 
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PCC is filled with legalist fundamentalist nutjobs more concerned about unnecessary rules and ridiculous codes rather than anything else. I pity anyone who goes there and I pity anyone who shares their beliefs.


I'm sorry, I just hate that place, I HAD to get my opinion in.
 
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Having visted PCC for college days and staying for a week, I strongly DISCOURAGE anyone from attending that school!!!! They are soooo un-biblical (believe it or not) it is scary
#1 I STRONGLY believe that we as Christians, learn and grow in faith by failures and through temptations. *1 Peter 1:7*
#2 when you go off to college you are growing up. You need to learn to make your own decisions (good or bad) without someone TELLING you what to do. At PCC they know where you are at 24/7. When you leave campus there are SPYS!!! (firsthand experience, not rumors) the people at PCC tell you every move to make and every breath to take.
#3 They come by and make sure your in bed even with the lights out every night. I've been putting myself to bed for quite some time, don't need the help thanks.
They don't let you show your character AT ALL. I have 2 holes in each year. Tasteful, not tacky. Could not wear both earrings at PCC. You have to wear a skirt WITH hose that is bellow your knees.
#4 If you want to wear shorts or pants, you have to wear them in your room and change before leaving OR if a official comes in. (you will get written up)
#5 You can't even listen to contemporary Christian music (let alone secular OF any kind!)
#6 they try to tell you who to be. God created us all diffirent. We are supposed to be the same.
#7 there are seperate STAIRCASES for the opposite sex!!! Once again, I feel that dealing with temptation is a part of growing in faith.
#8 you cannot be alone with a member of the opposite sex, even your father or brother. You cannot even hold hands, hug etc. (which may not seem so bad, but I know there is nothing lustful in by SO holding my hand or giving me a "feel better" hug)
I pray that you will do God's Will in your decision and wish you the best of luck.
Once again, these aren't rumors, things I've heard/read etc. This is from first hand experience.
 
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I have visited PCC and know quite a few people who have gone there. I am personally not fond of the college and would not recommend it. In fact, I would discourage anyone from going there. However, the reality is that there are many people who, for some reason or another, want to be in a place that places strict rules on them. If someone wants to go to a place like that, that's the kind of place that colleges like PCC are for. This may very well be the kind of place that is appropriate for I've Got a Secret. As long as she's willing to handle the ramifications of the decision to go there, it may be a good thing for her.
 
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I have actually attended PCC. Been there, done that, and I have the diploma and t-shirt to prove it.

If you attend PCC, it is probably because you have made a decision to follow the Lord in the next step that He leads you.

My first advice is to consult Him first. Pray, possibly even fast if you are able. This is one of the biggest and important decisions of your life. You might get answers from an online blog, but what do your parents, pastor, spiritual family advise you?

PCC is not a place for those who aren't spiritually or ministerially minded. There are rules, rules, and more rules. Some are silly, some are inconvenient, some just seem to be crazy, but most make sense. What would the world be like without the LAW of gravity. Rules have their place.

All kinds of people go there. There is a good nursing program there, but, yes, the school is not accredited. Its good if you are there for a ministry degree, or even a "Mrs." degree. But not if you want to go into the public work force.

They do have a big push there to look good on the outside, though. Everyone has to fit in their own little "catch the spirit" image. Like every place, there are many pros and cons. They have great academics. Most people there are truly sincere and love the Lord.

I would say to get better advice than you could here. Most replies I've seen are based only on hearsay. PCC has been great for some, and terrible for some. I personally had many problems with the college, but it is also there that I could grow, learn, and find out who and what I am in the LORD.
 
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