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PBS aired a 2 hour show about Luther last evening

Discussion in 'Theologia Crucis - Lutherans' started by Basil the Great, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. Basil the Great

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    It was most interesting. It will probably be shown again. I recommend it for all to see. They interviewed a number of theologians, including Cardinal Dolan, which surprised me. He acknowledged that corruption in the Catholic Church back then contributed to the Protestant Reformation.
     
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  2. Halbhh

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    Caught the 2nd half by chance, and found it worthwhile, so I'll want to see the 1rst half now.
     
  3. Tigger45

    Tigger45 No one heals himself by wounding another. Supporter CF Senior Ambassador Angels Team

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    I'm glad it aired and think it would be good for a lot of Protestants to watch it and get in touch with the history behind the causes and blessings we now take for granted.
     
  4. Monk Brendan

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    Thank you. I recorded it, but haven't had time to see it yet.
     
  5. mark46

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    Yes, corruption and indulgences to pay for St Peter's.
     
  6. Sean611

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    It was certainly worthwhile and fascinating, especially if you are largely unfamiliar with Luther. I am pretty familiar with the period, but still found much insight and much to think about.

    It was refreshing that Cardinal Dolan was featured on the program and his honesty about the corruption in his own church at the time was refreshing. As the program spoke more about the developing reformation, it would have been nice to hear a little more from the Catholic perspective. That said, it amazing how many of Luther's reforms have found their way into the Catholic Church (local language Mass, local language Bibles, better educated clergy, better educated laity, taking on corruption, etc.). It was Pope Benedict, as a Cardinal in the 70s, that mentioned that the Augsburg Confession could possibly be seen as a Catholic statement of faith. Obviously that hasn't happened, but it is incredible just how much things have changed!

    I guess my biggest hope and takeaway is that protestants watching dig deeper into Luther's writings and into Lutheran belief, with the hope that they discover the Sacraments and liturgical worship. If Luther were alive today, I imagine much of his time would be spent trying to reform today's protestant churches!
     
  7. mark46

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    If Luther were alive today, I suspect that he would be very comfortable that his reforms in Catholic Church have taken hold. I suspect that he would be very comfortable in the RCC.

    Yes, it is many of the Protestant denominations and non-denominational folks that would need the reforming, as you said, with regard to liturgy and sacraments (also with regard to Mary, the ECF's, the creeds and a better understanding of sola scriptura).

    The issues between Luther and the Catholic Church would be few. Catholics and the WLF are agreed on justification (1999). Others have accepted their agreement.

    http://religionnews.com/2017/07/06/...c-lutheran-accord-on-key-reformation-dispute/

    The RCC and the WLF continue to meet and will have many celebrations together in this 500th anniversary of the Reformation.

    The RCC is trying to help its members to accept the Lutheran-Catholic common understandings.

    http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-te...versary-of-the-Reformation-Resource-Guide.pdf

    As is the World Lutheran Federation (and ELCA).



    https://www.elca.org/News-and-Events/7876

    The RCC and WLF are working toward intercommunion. I expect that a statement will be forthcoming at the end of October, as has happened for the past couple of years.

    Catholic and Lutheran Churches pledge to work for shared Eucharist

     
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    Commemoration of the Reformation in 2017


    In 2017, Lutheran and Catholic Christians will commemorate together the 500th anniversary of the beginning of the Reformation. Lutherans and Catholics today enjoy a growth in mutual understanding, cooperation, and respect. They have come to acknowledge that more unites than divides them: above all, common faith in the Triune God and the revelation in Jesus Christ, as well as recognition of the basic truths of the doctrine of justification.

    Already the 450th anniversary of the Augsburg Confession in 1980 offered both Lutherans and Catholics the opportunity to develop a common understanding of the foundational truths of the faith by pointing to Jesus Christ as the living center of our Christian faith. On the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther’s birth in 1983, the international dialogue between Roman Catholics and Lutherans jointly affirmed a number of Luther’s essential concerns. The commission’s report designated him “Witness to Jesus Christ” and declared, “Christians, whether Protestant or Catholic, cannot disregard the person and the message of this man.”

    The upcoming year of 2017 challenges Catholics and Lutherans to discuss in dialogue the issues and consequences of the Wittenberg Reformation, which centered on the person and thought of Martin Luther, and to develop perspectives for the remembrance and appropriation of the Reformation today. Luther’s reforming agenda poses a spiritual and theological challenge for both contemporary Catholics and Lutherans.​

    :)
    We pray!
     
  9. mark46

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    http://www.communio-icr.com/files/ratzinger11-3.pdf

    Folks might find this interesting.

    It is written by the RCC's best expert on Luther, Cardinal Ratzinger (later to become pope).

    As a German theologian and cardinal, he spent much effort studying Luther and the Reformation. I suspect that he would have followed Luther.
     
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