Paul Crouch gone

[Faulty]

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[REPHAIAHPEDAHEL]

He is having fun in heaven now. Happy days

 

[WanderingBloom]

TBN Founder Paul Crouch Dies at Age 79 After Chronic Heart Problems

By Jennifer Riley , Christian Post Reporter
November 30, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvNlaoMLKVQ

 

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[tturt]

Can you imagine how much energy, thought, patience, etc it took to create TBN to reach so many souls? Only with Yahweh's help.

 

[holyrokker]

Can you imagine how many millions of dollars people gave to TBN thinking it was going to ministry, only to fund Crouch's lavish lifestyle?

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Can you imagine how many millions of dollars people gave to TBN thinking it was going to ministry, only to fund Crouch's lavish lifestyle?

I don't agree with a lavish lifestyle but God is his judge not us. When our imaginations turn into criticizing others in the way they do what they do then we step over a line into the same area that we are accusing them of. God gave us an imagination and we use it to cricitize????? That's pretty lavish thinking of our self....that we would have handled things better if God had only given it to us instead of him. Silly God!

I have friends who are in ministry and they say they use to criticize him too...but they kept running into strong Christians who'd heard the gospel the first time via TBN.

When you reach as many souls for Jesus and you reach perfection with your finances then you can throw stones.

 

[holyrokker]

I don't agree with a lavish lifestyle but God is his judge not us. When our imaginations turn into criticizing others in the way they do what they do then we step over a line into the same area that we are accusing them of. God gave us an imagination and we use it to cricitize????? That's pretty lavish thinking of our self....that we would have handled things better if God had only given it to us instead of him. Silly God!

I have friends who are in ministry and they say they use to criticize him too...but they kept running into strong Christians who'd heard the gospel the first time via TBN.

When you reach as many souls for Jesus and you reach perfection with your finances then you can throw stones.

Is criticism a sin?
How many have been "saved" as a result of TBN? Maybe millions; maybe zero. We can't know anyone's heart.

We can know the fruit of the Paul Crouch's life, and it isn't pretty.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Is criticism a sin?
Criticism of others, Yes, it is sin!

We can know the fruit of the Paul Crouch's life, and it isn't pretty.

Not so. We may think what we think we know is what the Father thinks but only when we all stand before the Father and all our work is judged by fire will we truly know what the fruit of Paul Crouch's life is. I think though that most of will be more concerned about the fruit or lack there of from our own lives will prove by that fire.

 

[holyrokker]

Is criticism a sin?
Criticism of others, Yes, it is sin!

Really? 1 Hezekiah 9:17?

 

[nephilimiyr]

I just found out of Paul Crouch's passing by reading this thread and find it totally dishonorable and abhorant that someone professing the same faith as me is actually aplauding his death, jumping up and down with glee, and relishing this news with such hatred. It doesn't surprise me, but it does sicken me. The very least you could do is wait a week.

 

[~RENEE~]

I just found out of Paul Crouch's passing by reading this thread and find it totally dishonorable and abhorant that someone professing the same faith as me is actually aplauding his death, jumping up and down with glee, and relishing this news with such hatred. It doesn't surprise me, but it does sicken me. The very least you could do is wait a week.

QFT

 

[bushinoki]

I just found out of Paul Crouch's passing by reading this thread and find it totally dishonorable and abhorant that someone professing the same faith as me is actually aplauding his death, jumping up and down with glee, and relishing this news with such hatred. It doesn't surprise me, but it does sicken me. The very least you could do is wait a week.

Amen. And Amen. I don't agree with Crouch's theology, but I'm not celebrating his death either. It is not for us to judge, leave that to God.

 

[Faulty]

I found it quite sad myself. I still do.

I've made no attempt to hide my belief that the lot of them are lost. I can't tell you how upset I am for his sake. There is absolutely no joy or satisfaction of any kind in what happened. I've been quite disturbed lately. I don't know how else to say it.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Really? 1 Hezekiah 9:17?

Um...there is no book of Hezekiah in the Bible. If you're referring to something Hezekiah did then we need to examine exactly what it was that Hezekiah did and who exactly it was that he did it to. We also need to seek God to find out if HE has replaced Hezekiah with you.

You have no right deciding who is and is not God's people. You could be wrong and then you would be guilty of gossip and slander of God's people. Not very solid ground to be on.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

I found it quite sad myself. I still do.

I've made no attempt to hide my belief that the lot of them are lost. I can't tell you how upset I am for his sake. There is absolutely no joy or satisfaction of any kind in what happened. I've been quite disturbed lately. I don't know how else to say it.

Well, when you get to heaven I'm sure there will be a lot of people surprised to see you there too Some will be surprised to see me too.

 

[NorrinRadd]

Um...there is no book of Hezekiah in the Bible. ...

I think that was the point. IOW, the poster is sarcastically responding to the claim that criticism is a sin by saying, "Where does Scripture say that, 1 Hez. 9:17?" The meaning is that if someone is going to dogmatically assert that criticism is a sin, they need to back it up with Scripture, and by citing a nonexistent verse, the poster is saying he doesn't expect it to happen.

 

[hislegacy]

I just found out of Paul Crouch's passing by reading this thread and find it totally dishonorable and abhorant that someone professing the same faith as me is actually aplauding his death, jumping up and down with glee, and relishing this news with such hatred. It doesn't surprise me, but it does sicken me. The very least you could do is wait a week.

Well said

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

I think that was the point. IOW, the poster is sarcastically responding to the claim that criticism is a sin by saying, "Where does Scripture say that, 1 Hez. 9:17?" The meaning is that if someone is going to dogmatically assert that criticism is a sin, they need to back it up with Scripture, and by citing a nonexistent verse, the poster is saying he doesn't expect it to happen.

Titus 3:2
Phil 4:8
Matt 7:12
Exodus 20:16
Romans 12:10
Eph 4:29 - 32
John 15:12
Prov 24:17
Romans 15:1-2
Col 3:12-14
Matt 6:14, 15
1 Peter 2:17
1 Cor 13:4-13
Matt 7:3-5
1 John 4:20
Mark 12:31
1 Cor 13:13
Romans 12:17-21
John 13:34
Matt 12:36-37
Eph 4:29
James 1:26
1 Peter 2:1
Prov 19:5


I did not say that criticism in and of itself is sin....criticism of our brothers and sisters in the Lord is. It's not wrong to call wrong wrong, but it is wrong to assume that one knows for a fact that Paul Crouch is in hell and all the people who have come to the Lord via Paul Crouchs preaching are not really saved at all. According to scripture any who calls upon the Lord will be saved.

When we treat others the opposite of the way scripture tells us to treat others we are walking and talking in disobedience. That's a sign that we do not love God with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength. So, we need to spend more time critiquing our own walks instead of the walks of others.

 

[Faulty]

Well, when you get to heaven I'm sure there will be a lot of people surprised to see you there too Some will be surprised to see me too.

Unfortunately, I am convinced my suspicions are accurate, but if not I'll likely be asking him how he could have done the things he did for so long.