PA, MI, WI, NC, FL, AZ

[Aldebaran]

The intel agencies are saying the Russians want Trump so they supposedly love Bernie.

Read the article again, starting with the title of the article:
Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

 

[JohnAshton]

That Sanders loved by Russians is nothing more than a Russian RT Trump black ops campaign to get Trump, who the Russians really want, elected.

 

[Aldebaran]

That Sanders loved by Russians is nothing more than a Russian RT Trump black ops campaign to get Trump, who the Russians really want, elected.

Those who remember Sanders saying those things back in the day know otherwise. Even Pelosi doesn't like him. I guess that makes her a Trump-backer too, huh?

 

[JohnAshton]

Trump has said nice things about Putin and Duerte and others.

Your attack has no traction, my friend: he said something nice about social programs in Cuba.

"Boo" is not going to cut it.

 

[Aldebaran]

Trump has said nice things about Putin and Duerte and others.

Your attack has no traction, my friend: he said something nice about social programs in Cuba.

"Boo" is not going to cut it.

Sanders said nice things about the Soviet Union and Cuba and Fidel Castro.

You still haven't explained how that makes Sanders any better. Oh yeah, "Boo" isn't going to cut it. Neither will "Bee", so don't even try.

 

[JohnAshton]

Sanders said nice things about the Soviet Union and Cuba and Fidel Castro.

You still haven't explained how that makes Sanders any better. Oh yeah, "Boo" isn't going to cut it. Neither will "Bee", so don't even try.

Not as an endorsement for communism or their characters, he did not.

The voters know the dif, my friend.

 

[Aldebaran]

Not as an endorsement for communism or their characters, he did not.

The voters know the dif, my friend.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Yes, and the more the truth is revealed about him, the more the voters will turn away from him, just as much of his own party already is. Even the DNC itself rejected him last time, and should do so again, but no doubt fear what the "Bernie Bros" (the name his supporters gave themselves) will do when they face rejection once again: Bernie Sanders Fans Trap Woman House Candidate in Her Car

Even Sanders himself doesn't like the behavior of his own supporters. It's pretty bad when a guy's own supporters are detestable to the one they support:

 

[JohnAshton]

No, Aldebaran, "socialism" and "Sanders" and "oh my" are not spooking the voters.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, Aldebaran, "socialism" and "Sanders" and "oh my" are not spooking the voters.

It's funny how I can make an assertion backed up by evidence, and you keep responding with nothing that amounts to more than "No it's not!" without any evidence to back up your "claim". If you have no evidence, you have no claim.

Once again, your one-liner assertion is easily proven false: Poll: Sanders Rises, But Socialism Isn't Popular With Most Americans

 

[JohnAshton]

No, Aldebaran, you have not made an assertion backed up by objective, empirical data.

You have created a narrative of emotion.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, Aldebaran, you have not made an assertion backed up by objective, empirical data.

You have created a narrative of emotion.

At least it's emotion backed up by facts. Continue to ignore it if you'd like.

 

[JohnAshton]

No, Aldebaran, your narrative of emotion is not backed up by facts that Sanders praised communism.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, Aldebaran, your narrative of emotion is not backed up by facts that Sanders praised communism.

Yes it is.

 

[mark46]

That Sanders loved by Russians is nothing more than a Russian RT Trump black ops campaign to get Trump, who the Russians really want, elected.

Agreed. However, the Russians do indeed want to see Bernie nominated, as does Trump, and as did the SC Republican Party.

 

[JohnAshton]

Aldebaran can make his argument all he wants, but there are no facts that Sanders praised communism.

 

[JohnAshton]

Agreed. However, the Russians do indeed want to see Bernie nominated, as does Trump, and as did the SC Republican Party.

Oh, I agree that the Russians want Sanders nominated because they think he will be the easiest for Trump to beat. That means the Russians do not understand our social, cultural, economic, and political mores in our upper mid-West and Great Lakes regions

 

[Aldebaran]

Aldebaran can make his argument all he wants, but there are no facts that Sanders praised communism.

Yes there is.
Bernie Sanders praised communist Cuba and the Soviet Union in the 1980s

I await your further denials (without any evidence to back them up).

 

[JohnAshton]

No, that is not what Sanders said, who praised social programs; Simonson twisted that into Sanders praising communism. Different things. Please be more careful and more exact.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, that is not what Sanders said, who praised social programs; Simonson twisted that into Sanders praising communism. Different things. Please be more careful and more exact.

"For better or for worse, the Cuban revolution is a very profound and very deep revolution. Much deeper than I had understood," Sanders wrote. "More interesting than their providing their people with free health care, free education, free housing ... is that they are in fact creating a very different value system than the one we are familiar with."

"There are some things that [the Soviet Union does] better than we do and which were, in fact, quite impressive. Subway systems in in Moscow costs 5 kopecs — or 7 cents. Faster, cleaner, more attractive and more efficient than any in the U.S. — and cheap," an official statement from the Burlington's office reads. "The train trip that we took from Leningrad to Moscow — for Soviet citizens — was very cheap." Sanders then went on to praise "programs for youth and workers" that he saw during the trip.

 

[JohnAshton]

Thank you: Bernie was talking about social systems they do better ~ education, housing, health care, subway systems. We can learn from that. No, you can't show he is praising communism: that is silly.