Our part in the crucifixion- A life changing way to view it.

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Christians too often focus on the differences between us.
It is surely better to focus on what we share.

So we all accept that Jesus died for us, and visualize his crucifixion.
We think on our sins that put Him there, but should we view it this way instead?

Imagine every sin committed is one more lash on His back , and one more hit of a crufixion nail.

If every time we are about to commit a sin, we all visualised ourselves as the one who is actually hitting the nail , or cracking the whip to add one more lash to His bloodied back, and to carry on is to hit the nail, and hear our Lord scream in agony, since it really is our fault all of that happened, would you ever carry on?

It is a life changing thought. That the crucifixion is not something that others did to Him, it is what WE did to Him! And every occasion of sin , is one time more WE hit the nail....not somebody else.
 

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Christians too often focus on the differences between us.
It is surely better to focus on what we share.

So we all accept that Jesus died for us, and visualize his crucifixion.
We think on our sins that put Him there, but should we view it this way instead?

Imagine every sin committed is one more lash on His back , and one more hit of a crufixion nail.

If every time we are about to commit a sin, we all visualised ourselves as the one who is actually hitting the nail , or cracking the whip to add one more lash to His bloodied back, and to carry on is to hit the nail, and hear our Lord scream in agony, since it really is our fault all of that happened, would you ever carry on?

It is a life changing thought. That the crucifixion is not something that others did to Him, it is what WE did to Him! And every occasion of sin , is one time more WE hit the nail....not somebody else.
I heard it taught this way in an online service of a church in Oxford. It makes you think.
 
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Christians too often focus on the differences between us.
It is surely better to focus on what we share.

So we all accept that Jesus died for us, and visualize his crucifixion.
We think on our sins that put Him there, but should we view it this way instead?

Imagine every sin committed is one more lash on His back , and one more hit of a crufixion nail.

If every time we are about to commit a sin, we all visualised ourselves as the one who is actually hitting the nail , or cracking the whip to add one more lash to His bloodied back, and to carry on is to hit the nail, and hear our Lord scream in agony, since it really is our fault all of that happened, would you ever carry on?

It is a life changing thought. That the crucifixion is not something that others did to Him, it is what WE did to Him! And every occasion of sin , is one time more WE hit the nail....not somebody else.
In the movie 'The Passion of the Christ' Mel Gibson has a cameo role as the person pounding the nails into the hands and feet of Jesus. He could have had a cameo role anywhere in the movie if he wanted it, but he chose that because he too knew that his own sins were responsible for paining Jesus.
 
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The biblical concept in the OP is revealed in Isaiah 53 below :

Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,

and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.


7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.

And below we read Peters response to Psalm 53 which should be our response to Jesus on the cross who bore our sins.

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

hope this helps !!!
 
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The biblical concept in the OP is revealed in Isaiah 53 below :

Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,

and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.


7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.

And below we read Peters response to Psalm 53 which should be our response to Jesus on the cross who bore our sins.

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

hope this helps !!!
Somehow I was looking for verse 4 in the New Testament!
 
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In the movie 'The Passion of the Christ' Mel Gibson has a cameo role as the person pounding the nails into the hands and feet of Jesus. He could have had a cameo role anywhere in the movie if he wanted it, but he chose that because he too knew that his own sins were responsible for paining Jesus.
Mel had another cameo in The Passion. When the woman taken in adultery embraces Jesus' feet they were Mel's feet.
 
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Matthew 8:17 KJV
(17) That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

I was searching for "bore" not "bare" lol. Thanks!
its the OT passage in Is 53:4 quoted in the NT. its just a translation difference but the word in both OT and NT have the same meaning.

Here is the NASB below

New American Standard Bible
Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. ( Is 53:4)

hope this helps !!!
 
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Christians too often focus on the differences between us.
It is surely better to focus on what we share.

So we all accept that Jesus died for us, and visualize his crucifixion.
We think on our sins that put Him there, but should we view it this way instead?

Imagine every sin committed is one more lash on His back , and one more hit of a crufixion nail.

If every time we are about to commit a sin, we all visualised ourselves as the one who is actually hitting the nail , or cracking the whip to add one more lash to His bloodied back, and to carry on is to hit the nail, and hear our Lord scream in agony, since it really is our fault all of that happened, would you ever carry on?

It is a life changing thought. That the crucifixion is not something that others did to Him, it is what WE did to Him! And every occasion of sin , is one time more WE hit the nail....not somebody else.
I see it as even more personal:

Christ prayed His most fervent pray in the Garden three times, yet all we have is one sentence: “If there be any other way, let this cup pass from me”, but what “other way” could there possibly be?

If I had fulfilled my earthly objective without having to sin first then Christ would not have had to go to the cross for me personally, but could I have also established: “Another way”?

Could God had looked 2000 years down the corridor of time and seen another way?

If I could have kept Christ from going to the cross and did not then I am individually and personally responsible for Christ going to the cross.

Or are my sins just one nano second of Christ’s time on the cross?
 
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