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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Hammster, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

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    I am confused. How am I hijacking this thread?
     
  2. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    Maybe it depends on the Father? If someones father is led by the Holy Spirit of God then yes perhaps Gods attributes might show from someones father.
     
  3. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life Survives on Coffee and Whiskey

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    Great question. I'm preaching on this very idea this weekend. Jesus says "no one comes to the Father except through me." I believe this goes beyond saying that no one comes to God except through Christ. More specifically, Christ is saying that no one can come to know God as Father except through him.

    As I attempt to break it down, I believe Father contains at least two other ideas - unconditional love and discipline. Fathers' love for their children is unconditional. It does not depend on the behavior, character, or condition of their children. But Fathers also responsibly discipline their children to help them mature.

    Through Christ we may know God as one who both loves us unconditionally and disciplines us and makes us like himself. No other religion knows God in this way.
     
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  4. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Genesis 32: 29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
    30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
     
  5. Chesterton

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    It's not just a title of respect. There are ways in which He is like a father, hence the metaphor.
     
  6. Hammster

    Hammster Narrow-minded Bible-thumper Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Is the Father’s love for His children unconditional?
     
  7. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    Yes.
     
  8. rockytopva

    rockytopva Love to pray! :) Supporter

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    With some the question becomes, "How do they want me to answer their thread?" Anything but is considered a hijack.
     
  9. Hammster

    Hammster Narrow-minded Bible-thumper Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    How about, since the title and OP are about the Father, we stick with that discussion.
     
  10. Tree of Life

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    Yes I believe so.
     
  11. Hammster

    Hammster Narrow-minded Bible-thumper Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Getting a little more theological, is He universally the Father? Or just the Father to believers?
     
  12. Tree of Life

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    In the sense that we've been discussing he is only the Father of those who are in the Son.
     
  13. Michael Collum

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    Well, God did create the Universe.

    However, when pagans speak of the "all father" it's not the Father of Jesus.
     
  14. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    I think this applies: Matthew 10:32
     
  15. Ttalkkugjil

    Ttalkkugjil Spiritual Director

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    God is our Father, who will not refrain from doing us good. He is our eager and faithful Teacher, who imparts to us the knowledge, wisdom and guidance which we need for the proper way of living.
     
  16. Maria Billingsley

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    The Father is God. You can take it from there.
    Blessings
     
  17. Tone

    Tone Star Fish Radiant Supporter

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    I call Him Abba Yahuah.

    Because, of my adoption through Messiah!

    12 והמקבלים אתו נתן עז למו להיות בנים לאלהים המאמינים בשמו

    https://newchristianbiblestudy.org/...1-12/swedenborg_apocalypse-revealed-rogers_81

    Do you think the angels call Him father?
     
  18. LovebirdsFlying

    LovebirdsFlying My husband drew this cartoon of me. Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    I often compare God the Father to an earthly parent, with ourselves as small children by comparison. His ways are higher than our ways. What doesn't make sense to us, He understands completely. Children should obey their parents because they should trust that the parents know what's good for them. In the same way, we as God's children need to trust and obey Him even when we don't know why He wants it that way.

    Then, just as children grow in understanding, and will one day see why the parent gave those instructions, as we grow in Christ we gradually begin to understand God's reasons too.

    By analogy: Parent won't let Child have only cookies for supper. Wants Child to eat vegetables instead. Child doesn't understand this. "But I thought you loved me and wanted me to have good things. The cookies are good. Why do you want me to eat something yucky?" Child gradually grows to understand that the vegetables promote growth and health, which is the better "good," instead of just tasting pleasant. Similarly, we go through various troubles and struggles, and we don't understand why God lets those things happen. Why won't He fix it? But would He be doing us any favors if He just made everything easy all the time, and didn't let us grow and learn?
     
  19. Hammster

    Hammster Narrow-minded Bible-thumper Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Can those who are His children ever stop being His children?
     
  20. LovebirdsFlying

    LovebirdsFlying My husband drew this cartoon of me. Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    As I understand it, no. Not if they truly are.
     
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