MariaRegina
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Do they even think about that?
No, NICE-USA does not care. They are the opposite of nice.
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Do they even think about that?
Did anyone read what Monsanto did to Whole Foods Market. WFM was sued by Monsanto because Whole Foods had claimed that they did not carry any GMOs in the products sold in their stores. Monsanto knew otherwise, demanded the processed foods be checked, and sure enough Monsanto scientists found GMO products in many processed foods sold at Whole Foods that uneducated non-conspiracy minded people were eating.
That is why Whole Foods Market has decided to have mandatory labeling of all its products sold at their stores within five years. This is good. It will require all manufacturers to certify that there are or are not any GMO ingredients in their processed foods.
It feels most of the time like you're watching a crime drama (like "The GodFather" series) and seeing big gangs go at it/doing all of the typical mess that comes with the territory (i.e. extortion, protection racket, bribery, defaming property, violence, etc.) - except it's all within the realm of the farmers vs those who are in farm corporations trying to rule those who compete with them over food.Very interesting...I shop at Whole Foods quite regularly. This is disheartening....but nothing surprises me in the American food industry!
Gxg (G²);62763217 said:It feels most of the time like you're watching a crime drama (like "The GodFather" series) and seeing big gangs go at it/doing all of the typical mess that comes with the territory (i.e. extortion, protection racket, bribery, defaming property, violence, etc.) - except it's all within the realm of the farmers vs those who are in farm corporations trying to rule those who compete with them over food.
Corn is the new Crack cocaine...
Did anyone read what Monsanto did to Whole Foods Market. WFM was sued by Monsanto because Whole Foods had claimed that they did not carry any GMOs in the products sold in their stores. Monsanto knew otherwise, demanded the processed foods be checked, and sure enough Monsanto scientists found GMO products in many processed foods sold at Whole Foods that uneducated non-conspiracy minded people were eating.
That is why Whole Foods Market has decided to have mandatory labeling of all its products sold at their stores within five years. This is good. It will require all manufacturers to certify that there are or are not any GMO ingredients in their processed foods.
Gxg (G²);62763217 said:It feels most of the time like you're watching a crime drama (like "The GodFather" series) and seeing big gangs go at it/doing all of the typical mess that comes with the territory (i.e. extortion, protection racket, bribery, defaming property, violence, etc.) - except it's all within the realm of the farmers vs those who are in farm corporations trying to rule those who compete with them over food.
Corn is the new Crack cocaine...
I had heard of that, yes.
Thus far, Monsanto has consistently used the legal system to fight labeling and to fight farmers (who fear Monsanto's attention as the legal fees for defense drive farmers out of business even when they are not guilty of the charges).
I appreciate that Whole Foods has taken this step, but it is still a "win" for Monsanto in this sense -- the expense of testing and labeling falls on smaller and non-franchise (and non-corporate) farmers. This, and the persistent problem of crops destroyed by pollen drift means that, in practical terms, GM is the "new normal".
For example:
Monsanto Co Contributions to Federal Candidates | OpenSecrets
Monsanto, Pesticide Companies Contribute Another $5.5 Million to Kill GMO Labeling Initiative | Cornucopia Institute
Lobbying and Advertising: Eight Ways Monsanto Fails at Sustainable Agriculture | Union of Concerned Scientists
Exactly, and the price of obtaining non-GMO foods will continue to rise until only the filthy rich can afford to buy it.
We have tried to grow organic crops in our little plot of land, but with the fluoride added to our municipal water, the crops do not grow as well as they used to. Only the weeds seem to be able to grow abundantly. Last year our tomato and carrot plants did not produce anything.
In addition, news media and official government reports are saying that chem trailing is necessary to protect us from solar radiation and global warming. NBC news did a test and discovered barium and aluminum were the principal ingredients of this intensified spraying. This stuff covers our cars and our garbage bins, and seems to have hurt our plants. Our neighbors have also been complaining that their eyes are itching more intensely too. What are these chemicals doing to our ground and to our plants?
Unfortunately; "if the shoe fits " ...
Gxg (G²);62764494 said:Indeed..
Of course, for many believers (especially those within Evangelical culture), the main issues will never be something as essential as food since the battle lines are combatting against Gay Marriage and Abortion. And as important as those things are, you ensure people STILL get beat up when you ignore the Food issue.
I remember something that occurred years ago - as the USDA approved the planting of Monsanto’s genetically modified alfalfa, a crop used mainly as hay for cattle. Most organic farmers opposed the decision, but Forbes and the Organic Consumers Association (OCA) have brought to attention the fact that Whole Food Markets, Stonyfield Farms, and Organic Valley–three of the biggest natural food brands–split with the rest of the organic community and opted to support “co-existence” with Monsanto’s alfalfa.
Essentially, Whole Foods expected the USDA to regulate GMO alfalfa and make sure that non-GMO varieties are preserved. ..and they expected Monsanto to pay “the farmer for any losses related to the contamination of his crop”–a tactic that the OCA referred to as paying hush money to farmers.
Something that brings the issue home, from another who noted how Whole Foods and Others Joined Monsanto Gang of Food Thugs..and the ways that it is simply one part of a large strand of of Corporate Greed that not many want to tackle..much of it reflective of one large horror show in the way they operate:
Stonyfield Farm, for its part, denied any wrongdoing - as seen in an open letter on its website from CEO Gary Hirshbirg.
And as others noted, it'd probably not make sense to vilify Whole Foods, Stonyfield, and Organic Valley..for boycotting these companies would only hurt the organic family farmers who supply them. ..and in many ways, they are like the "Mom and Pops" stores that either get run out of town or beat into submission when they realize that the Criminal organizations coming in are fighting it out - with the small stores being either collateral damage or people that get to survive because they choose to support a side.
Monsanto Company = $4,208,000
DuPont Pioneer = $2,441,500
PepsiCo Inc. = $1,716,300
BASF Plant Science = $1,642,300
Bayer CropScience = $1,618,400
E.I. Dupont De Nemours & Co. = $1,273,600
Dow Agrosciences LLC = $1,184,800
Nestle USA = $1,169,400
Coca-Cola North America = $1,164,400
ConAgra Foods = $1,076,700
Syngenta Corporation = $821,300
Kellogg Co. = $632,500
Council for Biotechnology Information = $625,000
General Mills Inc. = $519,401
Hershey Company = $395,100
J.M. Smucker Co. = $388,000
Grocery Manufacturers Association = $375,000
Hormel Foods Corp. = $374,300
Bimbo Bakeries USA = $338,300
Pioneer Hi-Bred International (a DuPont business) = $310,100
Ocean Spray Cranberries Inc. = $301,553
Pinnacle Foods Group LLC = $266,100
Dean Foods Co. = $253,950
Biotech Industry Organization = $250,000
McCormick & Co. Inc. = $248,200
Rich Products Corp. = $225,537
Cargill Inc. = $202,229
Del Monte Foods Co. = $189,975
Knouse Foods Cooperative = $131,409
W.M. Wrigley Jr. Co. = $116,866
Mars Food North America = $100,243
Bumble Bee Foods LLC = $98,074
Sara Lee Corp. = $96,833
Sunny Delight Beverages Co. = $93,796
Campbell Soup Co. = $70,455
Solae LLC (Affiliated with DuPont & Monsanto = $59,215
McCain Foods USA = $50,593
Dole Packaged Foods Co. = $45,580
Ultimately, you already know that if BIG MONEY is involved, you are probably not going to truly get all the facts - including what happens off the books and what goes on behind the scenes. Just follow the money trail.Whole Foods CLAIMS that it was forced into agreeing with Monsanto due to a pressing lawsuit. APPARENTLY, the relationship between Whole Foods and Monsanto is adversarial.
I doubt that the whole truth will come out due to the APPARENTLY devious measures Monsanto has taken.
Anyone who trusts Monsanto MIGHT just have a hole in their heads.
Already aware of it - and no need for the reference, although thanks for sharing anyway.Again, read C.S. Lewis' book That Hideous Strength and his description of N.I.C.E., which is not nice at all and SEEMS to fit Monsanto like a glove.
Understood.Doesn't it SEEM like Monsanto has achieved its goals by getting its own police force (aka FDA), the entire collection of earthly seeds, most of the farmlands, and most of the money too? With this latest Monsanto Protection Act, it APPEARS like they have almost achieved their goals.
p.s. I am using uppercase letters to show that I certainly do not trust Monsanto and their lawyers. Let him who has eyes, see
Most of the companies I was aware of them doing some bad actions - paticularly Coke..as it concerns the Water supply being abused in other places.I have been boycotting all of these companies as most have sugar in their processed foods, which are not good for those with pre-diabetes or diabetes. By the way, most of this processed sugar comes from GMO corn, which is processed to make high fructose corn syrup, Vitamin C, Vitamin B, dextrose in IV bags for hospital use, etc.
So true....and truthfully, to me, it's just as bad to demonize all people within Monsanto (i.e. workers, managers, etc.) on all levels for the corruption done by many in it as it is to ignore the ways it does damage. Just like the U.S Postal Service has been used to ship materials which many unbelievers (alongside the CHurhc) have rightly condemned as not worthy of support (i.e. shipping inappropriate contentagraphic materials for example or magazines which have bad content) - there are others in the system who are not out to harm others....simply working a job....and unaware of some of what happens, while others involved feel trapped in it and try to focus on the good that has been done. And others in the system understand that both GOOD and bad occur - choosing to look at the good the U.S Postal Services does rather than solely see the bad. Even with Monsanto, there are good things that have been done by it historically - but that cannot be used to ignore the bad.That Monsanto has used the legal system to bully small farmers is a matter of public record; farmers in this country have been driven out of business by legal fees defending themselves from Monsanto even when they have been found not in abrogation of the law.
Its a powerful corporation with huge influence; that in itself is neither here nor there. Their track record, and the analysis of the rider, is.
This should help to explain why the rider is a problem, and why the descriptions seem to exceed the language of the rider:
You can read the complete article here:
USDA to Approve the Next Gene-Altered Crop | Rodale News
Imo, this rider was "all about" gmo sugar beet and gmo alfalfa; the rider circumvents the testing process and the judicial system and makes the crop planting the de facto test/trial. And a mistake at this level has far reaching consequences for the farmers the bill very clearly does not protect (conventional and organic farmers, who theoretically stand to lose out in perpetuity from one instance of pollen contamination).
The rider also sets precedent for testing; ie, these crops were fast-tracked. Once fast-tracking approval is done once, and protected, and the judicial level overturned there is the real potential that fast-tracking and concomitant crop protection will become the norm. That is the way things are done in the US.