OSASers choose to reject Jesus’ warnings about losing salvation!

[nobdysfool]

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And rightfully so.

 

[nobdysfool]

No challenges to PrincetonGuy's post?

Why bother? Nothing to be gained by it. You guys think you're right, and I don't. There it sits. I choose not to waste my time arguing with anyone who is already convinced that every word that comes out of my mouth (or from my keyboard) is wrong. I have a life to live. It's time I got back to doing that. Enjoy the echo chamber....

 

[Jack Terrence]

No challenges to PrincetonGuy's post?

Here is a verse for those who think that they alone have a handle on biblical interpretation.

Because he hath appointed a day wherein he will judge the world in equity, by the man whom he hath appointed; giving faith to all, by raising him up from the dead. Acts 17:31, Douay-Rheims

There it is! It says that God gives FAITH and it says that He gives it to "all." Yet we know that many men die in unbelief. Therefore, the word "all" refers to all nations of men and NOT every human being. God gives faith to men of all nations.

 

[OzSpen]

Why bother? Nothing to be gained by it. You guys think you're right, and I don't. There it sits. I choose not to waste my time arguing with anyone who is already convinced that every word that comes out of my mouth (or from my keyboard) is wrong. I have a life to live. It's time I got back to doing that. Enjoy the echo chamber....

Do you or do you not support the content of the history of OSAS that PrincetonGuy provided? The issue does not have to do with 'you guys think you're right, and I don't'. The issue has to do with truth. What's the truth about the history of OSAS?

Why don't you articulate for us the writers, theologians, exegetes, etc prior to the Reformation who supported OSAS?

In Christ,
Oz

 

[OzSpen]

Well FYI, John Calvin did NOT "create" the 5 points. That was the Synod of Dort's reply to the Remonstrance.

You told me that this comment by you was referring to PrincetonGuy's post about the history of OSAS. Where in PrincetonGuy's post did he state anything about the 5 points?

 

[Hammster]

Do you or do you not support the content of the history of OSAS that PrincetonGuy provided? The issue does not have to do with 'you guys think you're right, and I don't'. The issue has to do with truth. What's the truth about the history of OSAS?

Why don't you articulate for us the writers, theologians, exegetes, etc prior to the Reformation who supported OSAS?

In Christ,
Oz

Like Paul, Luke, James, etc?

 

[janxharris]

Like Paul, Luke, James, etc?

That does not deal with PrincetonGuy's point.

 

[Hammster]

That does not deal with PrincetonGuy's point.

I didn't quote him, did I?

 

[Hammster]

For the Arminians who think you need to do things to stay saved, how do you know you've done enough?

 

[OzSpen]

Like Paul, Luke, James, etc?

That's a red herring logical fallacy. When will you answer the issues surrounding the history of OSAS so that we can have a rational discussion? Logical fallacies prevent reasonable communication. That's what you are doing with your red herring fallacy.

 

[OzSpen]

For the Arminians who think you need to do things to stay saved, how do you know you've done enough?

Please deal with PrincetonGuy's challenge with OSAS history, instead of going off with your own tangental red herring fallacy.

 

[Hammster]

That's a red herring logical fallacy. When will you answer the issues surrounding the history of OSAS so that we can have a rational discussion? Logical fallacies prevent reasonable communication. That's what you are doing with your red herring fallacy.

This is a red herring. It didn't address my post. An ad hom, too, since I'm not the subject here.

 

[Hammster]

Please deal with PrincetonGuy's challenge with OSAS history, instead of going off with your own tangental red herring fallacy.

Red herring.

 

[OzSpen]

I didn't quote him, did I?

But I did and you were quoting my post.

Your avoidance of PrincetonGuy's challenge is obvious to me.

 

[Hammster]

But I did and you were quoting my post.

Your avoidance of PrincetonGuy's challenge is obvious to me.

I haven't read his posts. So I can't be avoiding his challenges, can I.

 

[janxharris]

I haven't read his posts. So I can't be avoiding his challenges, can I.

#252

Having now quoted twice from John Jefferson Davis, I should probably tell my readers that Davis is an ordained Presbyterian minister, and is a Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, having joined the faculty there in 1975. He began his article on the history of the doctrine of The Perseverance of the Saints with Augustine because there is not as much as a hint of that doctrine prior to the time of Augustine. Moreover, Davis does not find as much as another hint of that doctrine prior to the time of Calvin. And Davis is not alone—very numerous Calvinists have searched thousands of old documents in an unsuccessful attempt to prove that the five points of Calvinism did not originate with Calvin.

 

[Hammster]

#252

And?

 

[janxharris]

And?

If you are okay with not responding to his post then that's fine.

 

[Hammster]

If you are okay with not responding to his post then that's fine.

I never read it. So I guess I am.

 

[OzSpen]

I haven't read his posts. So I can't be avoiding his challenges, can I.

So why have you not read PrincetonGuy's exposition of the history of OSAS at #252?