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You're not the least bit concerned about the misconceptions in your post? Anyway, I concur with DogmaHunter.
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You're not the least bit concerned about the misconceptions in your post? Anyway, I concur with DogmaHunter.So not only do you refuse to answer questions you don't even bother to read posts......
Take your pick but I won't hold my breath for any answers....it is not within an atheist to do so:
As I expected, no answers.....just the typical atheistic dodging.You're not the least bit concerned about the misconceptions in your post? Anyway, I concur with DogmaHunter.
Do you want me to repeat the same points that DogmaHunter has already made; points that you haven't responded to anyway?As I expected, no answers.....just the typical atheistic dodging.
I would like for you to answer the questions.....Do you want me to repeat the same points that DogmaHunter has already made; points that you haven't responded to anyway?
I am sure DogmaHunter would like for you to respond to his post. Is that going to happen, or do you only huff-and-puff when people don't respond directly to your comments?I would like for you to answer the questions.....
You are so funny, in a hypocritical kind of way.I have asked you mulitple times to answer the questions; you won't even say you won't answer. Silence with silence......No discussion is possible....
To be clear, your contributions have been too meagre to warrant discussing. The only substantial post of yours, IMO, was the one DogmaHunter responded to. But you seem not to care enough to reply to his comments.No discussion is possible....
As you are the reason for the excuse...As that is your excuse not to engage.
In your mind, what is the reason for the universe?I do find the asking of someone to prove a negative to be intellectually bankrupt, and would agree with Jason that this strays from the OP.
If you ever come up with a testable, falsifiable definition for your "God", be sure to start a new thread with it.
Actually, for Catholics and Orthodox, this is not true. We have a documented belief system, which is required to be believed by those who claim to be members of that religion. It is true that many fail to live up to the belief system, but there are no variations acceptable to our documented faiths.As much as religionists like to use them.
There is the difficulty in the playing of the strawman card by the religionist when the religion they speak of is subject to interpretation by every one of its (in this case) millions of adherents.
Until you can prove them to be non-fact, you have a problem.That may be; personally, I am not concerned about the religious beliefs of others, until those that have access to our government, education system, and my children, begin to present such beliefs as fact.
Can this theology be presented in a manner that is testable and falsifiable, and even if were falsified, would anyone care?
Sure, but it is only evidence of how tightly one can cling to ones beliefs and a fallacious appeal to popularity. It is not an indication of their veracity.
Do you believe Darwin's theory of evolution? Where's the proof for that?I can't answer your question, because I don't know what you mean by; theological and biblical proof. Is this proof you mention, different than what we look to support non theological arguments? If so, why?
If you have an argument, present it and support it with evidence and I will comment as to whether it is something I would believe or not.
What do you mean? Are you asking about how the universe came to be? If that's your question, then I don't know, and from what I am able to discern, no one knows.In your mind, what is the reason for the universe?
Being a Catholic, I presume you are aware of the Church's stance on evolution and creationism?Do you believe Darwin's theory of evolution? Where's the proof for that?
Even most science is not provable. Ask Gallileo.Physics, cosmology and the like (science), involve objective evidence to support it. I have yet to see, anyone present independent verifiable objective evidence to support a God, or a specific theology.
Well, in actuality, most Christians have lack of commonality with other Christians. The Catholic faith has a systematic set of beliefs, so does the Orthodox, and they are pretty much in agreement. Regarding all Christians, I guess we could all be said to believe that Jesus lived, did what was recorded in the Gospels, died, Resurrected and rose. The Apostles or Nicene Creed. Past that, we disagree on many things.I have no problem with folks believing in a God and or a specific theology based on faith, but I wouldn't be shocked, when others don't have the same faith and or, see no logical reason to believe as you do.
You see, I don't care so much what someone believes and I fully expect people to have a variety of theological beliefs, which include 2/3 of the worlds population having different theological beliefs than Christians or no theological beliefs at all. I am most interested, in how one justifies their beliefs, not what they believe. If a Christian states; I believe on faith and don't claim they have "proof" that someone else is missing, I never question them. But, if they start claiming they have "proof" and anyone who disagrees with them is either misled, hates God and is simply wrong, then the challenges will come.
What is the reason for the uuniverse? How hard a question is that?What do you mean? Are you asking about how the universe came to be? If that's your question, then I don't know, and from what I am able to discern, no one knows.
Yes, very aware. They teach that evolution and creationism do not conflict, that you are free to believe in evolution as long as you do not believe that creationism is untrue.Being a Catholic, I presume you are aware of the Church's stance on evolution and creationism?
A very hard question that seemingly no one knows the answer to.What is the reason for the uuniverse? How hard a question is that?
To the bolded, isn't that sort of like when I started to present an argument, and one of your colleagues said, "Oh, that's the argument from ignorance."? In other words, claiming to know all the arguments for God...How in the world would you know, what I may accept with little to no argument? Are you testing those mind reading skills again?
Christianity itself I have no problem with and I was a Christian for most of my life. If people believe it on faith and it makes them a better person and better able to cope with life, they should hold onto to it. I just get a kick out of certain Christians, who claim to know how atheists think who disagree with them and also claim, non believers are missing all of this "proof" and are misled. To me, if one can't just say I believe on faith and I respect someone else may not have my faith and they need to claim the other person is missing the boat, expect to be challenged.
You really don't know what an argument from ignorance is, do you? But you seemingly don't care...To the bolded, isn't that sort of like when I started to present an argument, and one of your colleagues said, "Oh, that's the argument from ignorance."? In other words, claiming to know all the arguments for God...
For the record, I do respect those who do not have the same beliefs I do. I have quite a few colleagues on this board who do not hold Catholic views, we respect each other's views a great deal.
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