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Opinion: On Impeachment

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by hislegacy, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. hislegacy

    hislegacy This is me.

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    At 4:15pm today the House is scheduled to transfer the articles of impeachment.

    It’s walking the paper down the hall.

    if it is turned into a media event, that is an indication that this is just another political stunt. The more pomp and circumstances, the higher the drama.
     
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  2. HTacianas

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    It's not now simply a political stunt. It's become a mockery.

    Just for the record, I think Trump leaned on Zielinski to get him to investigate the Bidens. And I don't care.
     
  3. Cross Over the Lake

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    It’s just a big waste of time, that’s why Trump is just continuing to run the country while all this is going on. Diplomatic and now military solution, rallying in important states. The Senate has to go through with the trial or it will look like a cover up. Stay strong POTUS!!
     
  4. Albion

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    Consider it done.

    The ceremony simply preceded the transfer (and I wouldn't be surprised if the transfer/delivery isn't postponed after this, anyway).
     
  5. JM

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    I agree with the above.
     
  6. hislegacy

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    Did Pelosi just quote Longfellow and others when speaking of the Impeachment, like this is some great event of history.

    Really?
     
  7. hislegacy

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    Dear Mrs. Pelosi, Mr. Schummer and Nadler -

    You keep repeating the accusation that the President and Putin worked together in the 2016 election.

    Might I remind you of the Mueller Report:

    Page 10:
    the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.


     
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  8. Albion

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    You have to keep in mind that they don't believe what comes out of their mouths, either. It's all for show...or, more precisely, for the purposes of the 2020 election.
     
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  9. hislegacy

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    Nailed it!
     
  10. hislegacy

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    Sad somber moment by eye
     
  11. Fantine

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    I hope that there is video footage as between 50 and 53 Republican Senators commit perjury as they take the oath to be impartial. Let's go after them next.

    Attention must be paid when the main defense I have heard coming out of the House and the Senate is that he is "above the law." Since when does the defendant in a trial have veto power over who can provide testimony to his (alleged for now) crimes? It is a very sad moment to see our representative democracy dominated (in the Senate) by those who would support dictatorship and oligarchy over the government our Constitution mandates.
     
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  12. The Barbarian

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    If you don't mind that your president is a criminal, that's pretty sad.
     
  13. hislegacy

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    I don’t believe our President is a criminal. But I do believe there is a group on the left who is convinced he is.

    it doesn’t make them right, nor me wrong.
     
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  14. The Barbarian

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    If so, there's a lot more Americans on the left than I think there is...

    Don’t trust progressive pollsters? The latest Fox News poll found that by 15 percentage points, more Americans say Trump has abused his power than not (53 to 38%), and that by 8 percentage points, more say he has committed bribery (45 to 37%).

    Notwithstanding their view on whether Trump should be impeached, people know that what he did was wrong. The latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that three-quarters of Americans say Trump has done something wrong. Regardless of their views on impeachment or removal, people see the air of corruption and criminality around him.
    Impeachment isn't the issue in 2020, it's Trump crimes and corruption
     
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  15. wing2000

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    Pelosi was passing out pens like it was the signing of a treaty.
     
  17. tulc

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    ...paying a $25,000,000 fine for running a fraudulent "university"probably isn't something that a non-criminal does a lot. But then he also paid $2,000,000 and had his Foundation dissolved for:
    Which sounds an awful lot like something a criminal might do. (not to mention paying off a porn star and a Playboy bunny which also sounds a lot like something a criminal might do)

    Well if he'd stop doing criminal stuff it it might help, but evidently that's not going to happen any time soon. :sigh:

    Comes to that it doesn't sound like they're wrong, but you might be. :sorry:
    tulc(just thought that should be pointed out) :wave:
     
  18. jgarden

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    The Democrats are going to win on this one with or without the co-operation of McConnell and the Senate Republicans!

    If congressional Republicans think that by refusing to subpoena witnesses and relevant documents it will effectively put a lid on this controversy they're delusional!

    Just look at the amount of new information and leads that have emerged in the last month, none of which supports the position of the President, and all coming after the House Democrats had concluded their vote on impeachment!

    John Bolton, who bears no love for this President, will probably have his book published before the 2020 Election, which will only further undermine the wisdom of the Senate's decision to go through the motions by conducting an impeachment trial in name only!

    Majority leader McConnell's first priority is to retain a Republican majority in the Senate, the only question is how long can he remain tied to the "coattails" of this President before he and "all hands go down with this sinking ship!"
     
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  19. hislegacy

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    It looks really bad when they tout this as a sad and somber duty, then hand out souvenir pens, smiling, taking selfies and then hold a Parade for the press.
     
  20. The Barbarian

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    So here's why the ambassador was recalled...


    Corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor demanded removal of Yovanovitch as a condition for providing dirt on Biden.
     
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