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Operation 'Gulf of Tonkin Part 2' well underway

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Kentonio, Jun 13, 2019 at 3:46 AM.

  1. Kentonio

    Kentonio Well-Known Member

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    Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman: shipping firms - Reuters

    Everyone got their war cheerleader pom-poms ready?
     
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  2. Jonathan Walkerin

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    Would be a great play from Russia as well. Get US stuck to costly affair with Iran while at the same time raising oil prices to help their own economy. Or sure could just be US war hawks.

    One player that really does not get anything out of this is Iran because their infrastructure would be bombed to stone age even if ground invasion did not happen. Funny how US drives that Iran is to blame for this.

    Anyone have any motive for Iran to pick a losing fight with a superpower ?
     
  3. Peter J Barban

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    Perhaps Iran has internal motivations for this action and thinks the repercussions will be limited. Much like the way Iraq invaded Kuwait.
     
  4. Jonathan Walkerin

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    Limited repercussions with Trump and Bolton in charge and Iran without nukes. Yeah, likely that.
     
  5. Peter J Barban

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    After watching Trump for several years, we can see his leadership style. He talks aggressively so that he won't have to act aggressively. His actions are actually very risk-averse considering his ambitious goals.

    I expect Trump to continue to squeeze Iran economically until he leaves office or Iraq changes its direction. War is literally the last thing Trump wants. Trump, unlike most Obama and the Clintons is a nationalist, not an interventionist.
     
  6. Occams Barber

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    I think that the US should nuke the bejabbers out of everything in sight.

    The resulting pall from a thousand burning oil wells will cast a shadow over the entire planet effectively counteracting the effect of Global Warming.

    The result will be a situation where the US has resolved Global Warming, reduced future access to carbon based fuel, reduced the world's population to a reasonable level and provided the material for a whole new genre of new wave music. It's win, win, win all round,
    OB :(
     
  7. Jonathan Walkerin

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    I am sure you meant Iran and not Iraq but the funny part is that Trump could do exactly what you suggest. He has never bothered to be too logical or been that meticulous which country US attacking at any given time.
     
  8. DaisyDay

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    Neither tanker was American (Norwegian and Japanese) - so why are we involved?
     
  9. essentialsaltes

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    While disrupting oil going through the Strait of Hormuz would be a big deal, I don't think it would affect the US directly. I understand most of that oil is destined for Asia (including these two particular tankers).

    But if this is an inflammation of the Saudi/Iran feud, we have already chosen a side to support.
     
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  10. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    This is the kind of thing where it's so easy to suspect Iran that this actually becomes an argument that it can't have been Iran. Let's hope the investigation produces clarity.
     
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    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    CNN reports: The crew of USS Bainbridge reported that they saw an unexploded limpet mine on the side of one of the ships attacked today in the Gulf of Oman, according to a US defense official familiar with the matter.
     
  12. Jonathan Walkerin

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    Some speculation of attackers being Houthi rebels. Might make sense for them to escalate things and get Saudi Arabia distracted with more direct hostilities with Iran to divert attention from their little rebellion.
     
  13. Pommer

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    We’re getting out of “policing the world” and have migrated (oddly enough) to offering “protection”!
     
  14. variant

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    It makes little to no sense that Iran would be intentionally provoking a war by attacking oil tankers.

    Here are four countries that make more sense:
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    Saudi Arabia
    Israel
     
  15. Jonathan Walkerin

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    Let`s add China for good measure. They would probably love to see US getting stuck in Iran quagmire.
     
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