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The federal government has been dealing with it. Many come over with legal visas. Meat companies recruit Mexicans. Laws about hiring are more effective than Arpaio's sweeps and racial profiling - and that is going on. Obama didn't hand Arpaio anything- Arpaio is just getting desperate.

Arpaio tried to use his "posse" for narcotic arrests once - the real narcotic officers in various city forces and his own force had a fit. His posse was good though for patroling the mall parking lots at Christmas.
 
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Well, he seems to have a point. It's definitely not Obama holding back the illegals. ^_^

I've looked into Arpaio's background enough to know it's not pristine. I agree with you that he has skeletons. Still, one can admire that Arpaio has the fortitude and wherewithal to stand up to Obama and fire right back at him with both barrels ... to use an old West expression.
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April 2011 - Maricopa County Office of Management and Budget found Arpaio had misspent almost $100 million over the previous 5 years
- a restricted detention fund which could only legally be used to pay for jail items (food, detention officers' salaries and equipment) used to pay employees to patrol Maricopa County
- many Sheriff's Office employees, whose salaries were paid from the restricted detention fund, had working job assignments different from those recorded in their personnel records
- Arpaio's office kept a separate set of personnel books detailing actual work assignments, different from information kept on the county's official human-resources records
- Arpaio used the detention fund to pay for investigations of political rivals, and activities involving his human-smuggling unit
- inappropriate spending items (trip to Alaska where deputies stayed at a fishing resort, trips to Disneyland)
- widespread abuse of public funds and county policies by Arpaio's office, including high-ranking employees routinely charging expensive meals and stays at luxury hotels on their county credit cards
- a restricted jail enhancement fund was improperly used to pay for out-of-state training, a staff party at a local amusement park, and a $456,000 bus purchased by Arpaio in violation of county procurement rules

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
That's just the small tip of the iceberg" - to use an old West expression

Arpaio knows that at 80, he is too old to ever be held fully accountable for his actions.

The Arizona public may think that he's their "in house" maverick who can "finger his nose" at the Washington establishment BUT it goes far deeper than that. The Mayor of Mayor of Phoenix (Phil Gordon) has accused Sheriff Arpaio of conducting "a reign of terror" against local politicians, financed as it turns out by government funds misappropriated by the "peoples" sheriff.

Arpaio's "vebdetta" list includes
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- Phil Gordon, Phoenix Mayor
- Dan Saban, Arpaio's 2004 and 2008 opponent for the office of Sheriff of Maricopa County
- Terry Goddard, Arizona Attorney General
- David Smith, Maricopa County Manager
- The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors
- Barbara Mundell, Maricopa Superior Court Presiding Judge
- Anna Baca, former Maricopa Superior Court Presiding Judge
- Gary Donahoe, Maricopa Superior Court Criminal Presiding Judge
- Daniel Pochoda, ACLU attorney
- Sandra Dowling, former Maricopa County School Superintendent
- Mike Lacy, Editor, Phoenix New Times

Most of the above, and more, are currently in the process of suing Sheriff Arpaio, and after he is dead and gone, who is going to be left to pay for his excessess - the people who elected him!
 
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Truly. If the Sheriff of a county in Arizona says that it's fradulent, then what is left to do but to have president obama impeached? the evidence is clear.
YUP! Forgery is a felony, and Obama has to be complicit in this scam perpertrated upon the American public.

http://www.congressdoyourjob.com/

'Demanding an immediate Congressional Investigation into the electronic birth certificate released by Pres--ent Barack Hussein Obama as well as his forged Selective Service Card and his very questionable social security number which can't even pass the e-verify test.'
 
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He uses fear to convince folks - and appeals to certain beliefs. He does it by using the press. Some folks really believe hordes of Mexicans would be crossing the border if it were not for him.

US citizens are being detained as illegals - and then OOOPS! "Sorry - but you looked illegal". Do you know the Spanish were in Arizona before other Europeans? That many of the Hispanics here have families that have been here for over 100 years? Since before Arizona was a state? And that the native Mexicans and Americans traveled back and forth for centuries? That migrant Mexican workers had been going back and forth working crops since there were farms in Southern California (over 100 years)?

I have family in Michigan who are unbelievable ignorant of history of the southwest (except Wyatt Earp, of course. He looked like Kurt Russell :doh:) . They have real negative views of Latinos, and it is unwarrented. They all just suddenly came, in their view. But they also are members of the F.O.E - Fellowship of Eagles, a whites only club. They think Arpaio sounds great. sad....
Are you dissing the F.O.E.'s now? :wave:
 
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You don't really respond to the points I made. The facts of his background are important.

Don't you think that reports of rape and sexual assault should be investigated? They weren't in El Mirage for some time. It was caught 3 years later. The buck stops with Joe. It was in 2007 - 8 and not caught until 2011.

And do you really think that his deputies should be taking papers off the desk of a defense attorney in court, jeopardizing the proceedings?

Do you think that people, many of whom have not been convicted, should sleep in tents at 145 degrees, and eat moldy food? (the Wiki article has the references)

Should an elderly woman be thrown in solitary confinement for not knowing English? (DOJ report)

Do you think that Joe should have made sure his detention officers were paid their overtime before he blew the money to arrest a few illegals in a sweep?

Where in his job description is he responsible for a federal investigation - if one was needed?

Arpaio is just saying what Obama haters want to hear. But he is still going to court.

He really shouldn't have messed with Judge Gary Donahue either.
As a supermod, I am quite shocked that you continue to drive this thread into an off-topic derailment. Shocked, I tell you. Isn't there a thread already for the Leftist feeding frenzy against Sheriff Joe in a blatant malevolent campaign to disseminate and destroy the reputation of a committed public servant who by all accounts is doing his job in spectacular fashion?

This thread is about how Hawaii has been illegally running a "Citizenship Mill" and ALL of their birth certificates are of questionable probative value, especially Obama the Permanent Resident Alien.

It is national security issue.

Under Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8, a person only has to be an established resident of Hawaii, not necessarily a U.S. citizen, and pay taxes there for one year to be able to register an out-of-state or foreign-born person with an official Hawaii birth certificate


This all comes full circle now to Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, in his becoming an Obama political prisoner for the high treason performed by this Usurper that has sucked every legitimate institution of America into a criminal conspiracy.
 
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I have family in Mr. Arpaio's county and they will once again be voting for him. He is taking vicious criminals off the street, keeping the people safe, and also a defender of America.

God Bless Joe Arpaio and his officers.
God Bless Joe Arpaio and your family, AMEN. :thumbsup:
 
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Even if it were a fraud, it's a distraction at this point. He uses it to drum up money and distract from his horrible record.
Everything is a distraction in this Obama Super Depression, but if our elected officials don't get to the bottom of this they and the rest are all co conspirators guilty of high treason. "even if it were a fraud" :doh:
 
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Oops ... birth certificate now legally documented as fraudulent

Since when has 80 year old Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his "Cold Case Posse" become the self-appointed authorities in America to determine what contitutes a legitmate/fraudulent birth cirtificate in America?

Sheriff Arpaio would be well advised to be spending his time deciding how he is going to avoid crimminal prosecution and jail time. He is by any standard the most corrupt sheriff and probably the most corrupt politician in America!

Highlights of County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's career
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1995 - Arpaio reinstituted "volunteer" chain gangs

1997 - Amnesty International reported the the "Tent City," an outdoor extension of the Maricopa County Jail, was not an "adequate or humane alternative to housing inmates in suitable ... jail facilities."
- other groups contending that there are violations of human and constitutional rights pointing out that most inmates had not been convicted but were awaiting trial
- Arpaio has described the "Tent City" as a "concentration camp"

2001 - first sheriff to require all inmates aged 18+ be registered for the Selective Service System.
-total of 28,000 inmates (including 9,000 aliens) have registered

Summer 2003 - outside temperatures exceeded 110 °F (43 °C),
- Arpaio told complaining inmates, "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents, have to wear full body armor, and they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths." (most immates were there awaiting trial and had not been convicted either)

February 2007 - Arpaio operates his own "in-house" radio station, KJOE, from the basement of the Maricopa County Jail
- it provides classical music, opera, Frank Sinatra and patriotic music 4 hours a day, 5 days a week

June 2008 - Department of Justice Civil Rights Division began an investigation of Arpaio based on accusations of discrimination, unconstitutional searches and seizures
- investigation was conducted under the authority of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, prohibiting discrimination for programs receiving federal funds.

July 7, 2009 - Arpaio holds a press conference announcing that he would refuse cooperate with the investigation, not provide documents, not permit interviews with Maricopa County personnel

September 2, 2010 - Department of Justice filed suit against Arpaio to force him to comply
- Justice Department states that its "unprecedented" for any government agency not to cooperate with a Title VI investigation

June 2011 - Arpaio finally allows federal officials to interview Maricopa County Sheriff's office employees and access to relevent documents

2008, 2010 - Federal Judge Neil V. Wake ruled that the Maricopa County jails violated the constitutional rights of inmates in medical and other care related issues
- this was the result of a lawsuit brought by the ACLU, which stated that "Arpaio routinely abused pre-trial detainees at Maricopa County Jail by feeding them moldy bread, rotten fruit and other contaminated food, housing them in cells so hot as to endanger their health, denying them care for serious medical and mental health needs and keeping them packed as tightly as sardines in holding cells for days at a time during intake."

October 2010 - U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals orders Arpaio to follow Judge Wake's 2008 ruling
- Arpaio ordered to end severe overcrowding, ensure all detainees receive necessary medical and mental health care, be given uninterrupted access to all medications prescribed by correctional medical staff, be given access to exercise and to sinks, toilets, toilet paper and soap and be served food that meets or exceeds the U.S. Department of Agriculture's dietary guidelines

November 2010 - Arpaio creates an armed illegal immigration operations posse to help his deputies enforce immigration law.
- members include celebrity actors Steven Seagal, Lou Ferrigno, Peter Lupus

July 2, 2011 - temperatures in Phoenix hit 118 °F (48 °C) and Arpaio measured the temperature inside Tent City at 145 °F (63 °C). - - inmates complained that the fans weren't working, their shoes were melting from the heat

December 15, 2011 - after a 3-year investigation of Arpaio's office concerning racial profiling and culture of bias by the Justice Department it concludes that there is "a pervasive culture of discriminatory bias against Latinos" that "reaches the highest levels of the agency (Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office)"
- Arpaio accused of "unconstitutional policing," unfairly targeting Latinos for detention and arrest, and retaliating against critics
- Justice Department concluded that Arpaio operated the worst pattern of "racial profiling" in U.S. history

December 15, 2011 - United States Department of Homeland Security revoked the MCSO's federal authority to identify and detain illegal immigrants

December 23, 2011 - U.S. District Court Judge G. Murray Snow prohibited Arpaio and the MCSO from "detaining any person based only on knowledge or reasonable belief, without more, that the person is unlawfully present within the United States," (halted anti-illegal immigration enforcement by MCSO in its current form)

December 2011 - federal grand jury had been investigating Arpaio's office on criminal abuse-of-power allegations since December 2009- specifically examining the investigative work of the sheriff's anti-public corruption squad

Maricopa County Sheriff's website - markets customized pink boxers (with the Maricopa County Sheriff's logo and "Go Joe"), pink handcuffs and promotes Arpaio's book "America's Toughest Sheriff" as a fund-raiser for Sheriff's Posse Association - despite allegations, Arpaio has never provided an accounting for the money

Arpaio practices have been criticized by:
- United States Department of Justice,
- United States District Courts
- Amnesty International
- American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)
- Arizona Ecumenical Council
- American Jewish Committee
- Arizona chapter of the Anti-Defamation League
- editorial board of The New York Times called Arpaio "America's Worst Sheriff"

2008 - a federal grand jury began an inquiry of Arpaio for abuse of power, in connection with an FBI investigation
- Arpaio investigated for politically motivated and "bogus" prosecutions, which a former US Attorney called "utterly unacceptable"
- Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon has called Arpaio's "long list" of questionable prosecutions "a reign of terror"

Targets of Arpaio's alleged abuse of power have included:
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- Phil Gordon, Phoenix Mayor
- Dan Saban, Arpaio's 2004 and 2008 opponent for the office of Sheriff of Maricopa County
- Terry Goddard, Arizona Attorney General
- David Smith, Maricopa County Manager
- The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors
- Barbara Mundell, Maricopa Superior Court Presiding Judge
- Anna Baca, former Maricopa Superior Court Presiding Judge
- Gary Donahoe, Maricopa Superior Court Criminal Presiding Judge
- Daniel Pochoda, ACLU attorney
- Sandra Dowling, former Maricopa County School Superintendent
- Mike Lacy, Editor, Phoenix New Times

February 2010 - Judge John Leonardo found that Arpaio "misused the power of his office to target members of the (Board of Supervisors) for criminal investigation"

September 2010 - feuding between Arpaio and former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas on one side, and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors on the other side cost at least $5.6 million, most of which was paid to private attorneys.
- Arpaio and Thomas filed several lawsuits against the Board of Supervisors (federal civil-racketeering suit against the supervisors, four judges and attorneys who work with the county)
- Arpaio and Thomas have lost every case (court rulings, dropped cases)

2010 - Arpaio and Thomas sought to have a grand jury indict a number of Maricopa County Judges, Maricopa County Supervisors, and employees of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors
- in an unusual rebuke, the grand jury ordered the investigation ended
- "...the case is so bad, there's no further evidence that could be brought [to substantiate it]"
- Thomas and a subordinate attorney on his County Attorney staff faced a hearing later in 2011 before the Ethics Committee of the Arizona Bar which could result on sanctions, permanent loss of their law licenses

November/December 2010 - Judge Gary Donahoe, retired Maricopa County Superior Court judges Barbara Mundell, Anna Baca, and Kenneth Fields, County Supervisor Don Stapley, Deputy County Manager Sandi Wilson, and Susan Schuerman have filed suits naming Sheriff Arpaio

January 2011- executive assistant to Supervisor Don Stapley, Conley Wolfswinkel (a business associate of Stapley) filed suits naming naming Sheriff Arpaio

Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox, and Maricopa Deputy County Manager Sandi Wilson have filed notices of claims (leading to filing suit) totalling about $56 million dollars naming Sheriff Arpaio

July 2010 - Sheriff Arpaio started the Campaign to Re-Elect Joe Arpaio 2012 despite the fact that Arpaio is not currently running for re-election (his term does not expire until the end of 2012
- funded advertisements critical of Rick Romley, a candidate in the Republican Primary for Maricopa County Attorney and Arizona Attorney General candidate Tom Horne

August 24, 2010 - Maricopa Elections Department found Sheriff Arpaio had violated of Arizona election law and fined $153,978

April 2011 - Maricopa County Office of Management and Budget found Arpaio had misspent almost $100 million over the previous 5 years
- a restricted detention fund which could only legally be used to pay for jail items (food, detention officers' salaries and equipment) used to pay employees to patrol Maricopa County
- many Sheriff's Office employees, whose salaries were paid from the restricted detention fund, were working job assignments different from those recorded in their personnel records
- Arpaio's office kept a separate set of personnel books detailing actual work assignments, different from information kept on the county's official human-resources records
- Arpaio used the detention fund to pay for investigations of political rivals, and activities involving his human-smuggling unit
- inappropriate spending items (trip to Alaska where deputies stayed at a fishing resort, trips to Disneyland)
- widespread abuse of public funds and county policies by Arpaio's office, including high-ranking employees routinely charging expensive meals and stays at luxury hotels on their county credit cards
- a restricted jail enhancement fund was improperly used to pay for out-of-state training, a staff party at a local amusement park, and a $456,000 bus purchased by Arpaio in violation of county procurement rules

September 2010 - internal memo by Maricopa Deputy Chief Frank Munnell alleged years of misconduct and mismanagement by Arpaio's second in command and other top MCSO officers
- use of a public-corruption task force to conduct politically motivated probes into political opponents
- top officials in the MCSO "willfully and intentionally committed criminal acts by attempting to obstruct justice, tamper with witnesses, and destroy evidence."
- former top MCSO staffers claimed that Arpaio knew of the acts but took no action to stop them
- Arpaio has not commented publicly on the allegations
- October 2010, the US Attorney for Arizona confirmed that the FBI and Department of Justice had received the Munnell memo, and were conducting criminal investigations

March 1, 2012 - Arpaio and members of his Cold Case Posse announcing their belief that President Barack Obama’s long-form birth certificate, released by the White House on April 27, 2011, is a computer-generated forgery.

December 2011 U.S. District Judge G. Murray Snow expanded the complaint by Manuel De Jesus Ortega Melendres (a Mexican tourist) who was detained by the MCSO for 9 houts into a class-action lawsuit including all Latino drivers stopped by the Sheriff's Office since 2007
- will be heard in a federal court in Phoenix, in a six-day bench trial starting July 19, 2012

Department of Justice racial-profiling lawsuit

May 10, 2012 - United States Department of Justice filed suit against Arpaio, the MCSO, and Maricopa County, alleging that "The Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO) and Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio have engaged and continue to engage in a pattern or practice of unlawful discriminatory police conduct directed at Latinos in Maricopa County and jail practices that unlawfully discriminate against Latino prisoners with limited English language skills."
- Department of Justice stated it had no choice after Arpaio's attorneys balked at a demand for a court-appointed monitor to ensure the Sheriff's Office complies with any settlement terms.
- Arpaio rejected the notion of a court-appointed monitor, and denied that the MCSO engages in racial profiling

Joe Arpaio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There should be medals and awards given for much of this. My only regret is that I can't vote for Joe.

After reading all this, I just went and donated $100 to his campaign. Thanks for telling us all about this great American.
 
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There should be medals and awards given for much of this. My only regret is that I can't vote for Joe.

After reading all this, I just went and donated $100 to his campaign. Thanks for telling us all about this great American.
Sheriff Joe seems the ONLY one who upholds the Law anymore.
THE ONLY ONE!
 
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I take it you are talking about Arpaio?

He might, but no, Obama. Especially early on, whenever the controversy seemed to have started to die down, he (or Michelle) would make some comment that'd get things going again. *shrug*
 
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The press is attacking the messenger rather than the evidence uncovered.

Zullo: "Every document relating to this individual has problems."

Zullo: "That document is a forgery!"


"The first bombshell he dropped was that he and his investigator located Ms. Verna K. L. Lee, who was the registrar that signed the birth certificates in Hawaii. She informed him of a coding system that would indicate that the birth certificate provided by the White House has been altered. This coding would have been done by hand and then rechecked by another. This would also have kept the document from being out of sequence by date or time.

No one had to witness a birth in order to obtain a birth certificate in Hawaii. As has been reported, many Japanese people who were not citizens obtained birth records for their children. All they had to be were residents, not citizens, to obtain the birth records for their children.
From 1955-1982 this was the case because birth registry could be obtained by an adult simply coming in and filling out the paperwork. They provided unsworn testimony and there was no investigation to see if the testimony was truthful.

"It appears that in the case of Hawaii law, any person can obtain a birth certificate if any adult or their parents can prove that they resided in Hawaii for one year and paid taxes," he said. "There is no requirement to show that the child itself was actually born in Hawaii or on U.S. soil."
It was at this point that Mike Zullo stated that this is a "national security issue."

Zullo explained that along with new information discovered regarding the birth certificate since the posse’s March 1 press conference, his team has discovered Hawaii provides easy access to a birth certificate, even if the child wasn’t born in the state.

Under Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8, a person only has to be an established resident of Hawaii, not necessarily a U.S. citizen, and pay taxes there for one year to be able to register an out-of-state or foreign-born person with an official Hawaii birth certificate.

"If a nation’s security is only as strong as its weakest link, then America may be in serious trouble," Arpaio said in a statement. "Hawaii may be our weakest link and could have a serious impact on our nation’s immigration policy.""


Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/07/sheriff-joe-obama-birth-certificate-national-security-issue/#ixzz20xwF6jnM
 
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Everything is a distraction in this Obama Super Depression, but if our elected officials don't get to the bottom of this they and the rest are all co conspirators guilty of high treason. "even if it were a fraud" :doh:

Meh, I'm a realist. From what I read, it doesn't mean he wasn't born here, just that there's apparently issues with the copy they provided. Even if he wasn't, no one is going to touch it, because as soon as they do, a certain card gets played:

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I don't recall that the White House ever claimed that the pdf originated with Hawaii. I always understood it to be a digital representation of the official paper copy.

As for its being "legally documented as a fraud" - that's simple nonsense.
 
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Meh, I'm a realist. From what I read, it doesn't mean he wasn't born here, just that there's apparently issues with the copy they provided.
It still should be enough to get a judge's attention for a subpoena or to get a Special Prosecutor appointed for a full investigation. What Bammy puts out as legit is a fake.

There are too many "Mehs" going on today with Fast and Furious, taxpayer guaranteed green loans to Obama cronies, stimulus money
for billions of dollars designated to his donors and unions.

Even if he wasn't, no one is going to touch it, because as soon as they do, a certain card gets played:

"Let this be a lesson to anyone that questions the Birth Certificate. The Usurper cannot be disrespected. It is racist to disagree with the Usurper, therefore you will suffer the wrath of Holder. Also do not ask to see information about Fast and Furious or you will see how Fast Holder gets Furious and sics his legal team on your behind."

Everyone should be used to that Commie play by now, they use it for everything. It has lost it's usefulness on me. But you say investigating and finding the truth about the proven liar is a distraction or a diversion. Romney's tax returns, are the distraction and diversions. What Americans should be interested in are the sealed records of the sitting Userper acting as POTUS.

Obama released his so-called birth certificate, the day before he begrudgingly authorized the attack on Bin Ladin's compound (after knowing where Osama Bin Ladin was for almost a year.)
That seems like Obama was looking for a distraction from his fake birth certificate to me. If he is illegal we need to sue the Democratic Party for peretrating the fraud. Especially Nancy Pelosi.
 
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I don't recall that the White House ever claimed that the pdf originated with Hawaii. I always understood it to be a digital representation of the official paper copy.

As for its being "legally documented as a fraud" - that's simple nonsense.
Obama and the rest of the Hussein administration with the help of the complicit idol worshiping MSM told everyone that the document was Obama's original birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. It's quite comical to watch the squirming and backtracking on the fraud perpetrated upon the American public.

"No one said it was real" lol
 
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