one thing we have to be careful about in heaven

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In heaven, there is a hierarchy. If we lead someone to Jesus, then we have a crown in heaven. If we do not save anybody, then we haven't a crown. Who among you wants these awards and honors? It is to be ambitious in our faith.
 

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Nah I don't believe the crowns are sales commissions for evangelism. I believe they represent the reward or acknowledgment of a person living a sacrificial life on Earth where the Gospel is put first rather than seeking earthly pleasure and a life of ease.
 
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If we lead someone to Jesus, then we have a crown in heaven. If we do not save anybody, then we haven't a crown.

The Bible doesn't say that.

Be faithful unto death...Revelation 2:10
Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial...James 1:12
Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness...2 Timothy 4:8

Faithfulness, perseverance and righteousness are all causes for a crown.
 
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Nah I don't believe the crowns are sales commissions for evangelism. I believe they represent the reward or acknowledgment of a person living a sacrificial life on Earth where the Gospel is put first rather than seeking earthly pleasure and a life of ease.
Sure, not only evangelism
 
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The Bible doesn't say that.

Be faithful unto death...Revelation 2:10
Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial...James 1:12
Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness...2 Timothy 4:8

Faithfulness, perseverance and righteousness are all causes for a crown.
But your acts count, any good act receive a reward in heaven
 
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Nah I don't believe the crowns are sales commissions for evangelism. I believe they represent the reward or acknowledgment of a person living a sacrificial life on Earth where the Gospel is put first rather than seeking earthly pleasure and a life of ease.
By definition Gospel means to proclaim the good news. That is the first and foremost ‘commission’ of the Lord. There is no greater way ‘to love thy neighbor’ than this.
 
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In heaven, there is a hierarchy. If we lead someone to Jesus, then we have a crown in heaven. If we do not save anybody, then we haven't a crown. Who among you wants these awards and honors? It is to be ambitious in our faith.
You are right about one thing, the souls you win for Jesus do help increase your reward in Heaven" and they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament, and they that turn many to righteousness (lead people to Jesus) as the stars forever and ever." Daniel 12:3
And the Apostle Paul told some of his converts, "For what is our Hope or Joy or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His coming?" 1Thessolonians 2:19
But that's not the only thing that will give you a reward in Heaven. If you witness to somebody and they receive the Lord, you will get a reward. But if you witness to them and they make the decision to reject Jesus you'll still get a reward in heaven because you were faithful to witness even if you didn't get a convert from your witnessing. There are many things you can do for the Lord that will up your reward in Heaven.
And Jesus said in one place," And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward." Mathew 10:42. If all you do is give a cup of cold water to a thirsty child, you'll still get a reward.
 
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In heaven, there is a hierarchy. If we lead someone to Jesus, then we have a crown in heaven. If we do not save anybody, then we haven't a crown. Who among you wants these awards and honors? It is to be ambitious in our faith.

1) The twenty-four elders cast down their crowns before the majesty of God (Revelation 4:10). Heaven is not about being on top, but being on the bottom. "The greatest among you is your slave" "the least shall be greatest" etc.

2) We don't save anyone. God saves people.

3) The highest honor there is, to love and serve Jesus Christ, and to love our fellow man with compassion, kindness, and gratitude is already ours. I have no need for a crown, and may the Lord rob me of any pride which would desire one.

-CryptoLuthearn
 
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Our example can help people to Jesus. We ourselves might not minister for someone to trust in Christ for salvation, but our example could have helped the person see how God wants him or her to become and to love and to know His word.

So, it is not a status thing, to be sure.

And then, after ones have trusted in Jesus, now people need to be taken care of. We need to have a healthy church, so we can bring up newborn children of God in a healthy way . . . so they are deeply sound and strong in God's love.
 
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1) The twenty-four elders cast down their crowns before the majesty of God (Revelation 4:10). Heaven is not about being on top, but being on the bottom. "The greatest among you is your slave" "the least shall be greatest" etc.

2) We don't save anyone. God saves people.

3) The highest honor there is, to love and serve Jesus Christ, and to love our fellow man with compassion, kindness, and gratitude is already ours. I have no need for a crown, and may the Lord rob me of any pride which would desire one.

-CryptoLuthearn

Our example can help people to Jesus. We ourselves might not minister for someone to trust in Christ for salvation, but our example could have helped the person see how God wants him or her to become and to love and to know His word.

So, it is not a status thing, to be sure.

And then, after ones have trusted in Jesus, now people need to be taken care of. We need to have a healthy church, so we can bring up newborn children of God in a healthy way . . . so they are deeply sound and strong in God's love.
it works working
 
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In heaven, there is a hierarchy. If we lead someone to Jesus, then we have a crown in heaven. If we do not save anybody, then we haven't a crown. Who among you wants these awards and honors? It is to be ambitious in our faith.
Ok.
Please explain where you got this from.

I see that if we want to be great in God's Kingdom we will need to be the servant of all.

Hierarchy though..... not seeing it.

So, perhaps you're using language terms I'm not familiar with.

Please explain.
 
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Ok.
Please explain where you got this from.

I see that if we want to be great in God's Kingdom we will need to be the servant of all.

Hierarchy though..... not seeing it.

So, perhaps you're using language terms I'm not familiar with.

Please explain.
the things we do, once we're saved, matter, for honor in heaven. Imagine our martyrs, who were tortured and killed savagely. Will they have the same treatment to a Christian who only watched tv all his life? That is why I want to do something significant, but I can not do anything.
 
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