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Once Gay (Matthew and friends)

Discussion in 'The Junk Drawer' started by Carl Emerson, Jun 18, 2021.

  1. Carl Emerson

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    This is an hour long video that looks in depth at the political and legal barriers to ex gay Christian converts seeking help with their de-transition.

    This is very insightful and important.

     
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  2. Der Alte

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    There are some of that persuasion who adamantly maintain that conversion from homosexuality to heterosexuality is impossible because they are born that way.
     
  3. Carl Emerson

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    Yes, but it is clearly happening as God sovereignly touches lives.
     
  4. Der Alte

    Der Alte This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    See e.g. Anne Heche former partner of Ellen DeGeneres.
     
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  5. Carl Emerson

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    I understand that some adamantly maintain it cant happen, but God is doing it despite their opinions.
     
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  6. Carl Emerson

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    Does this sound like someone who is sufficiently in touch with reality to be an authority on this issue?

    In a series of interviews with Barbara Walters, Matt Lauer, and Larry King to promote Call Me Crazy in 2001, Heche stated on national television that she created a fantasy world called the "Fourth Dimension" to make herself feel safe, and had an alter ego who was the daughter of God and half-sister of Jesus Christ named "Celestia", who had contacts with extraterrestrial life forms.[77][82] Heche said she recovered from her mental health concerns following the incident in Cantua Creek and has put her alter ego behind her.[5]
     
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  7. Carl Emerson

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    I may have misundestood - are you saying she has become a Chrisrian and has been dramatically changed ?
     
  8. HIM

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    Sexual sins come with Obsession to the point of possession.
     
  9. Der Alte

    Der Alte This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    Not sure I would go that far but she married and had a son,
     
  10. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    Why find it strange, that if after 20 years in a marriage to a woman with kids the husband says he's gay. That the reverse isn't possible?
     
  11. Carl Emerson

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    Aaahhh.... But the enemy wants to keep them captive and even pass laws against their release...
     
  12. The Barbarian

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    I can't imagine switching from heterosexual to homosexual. It just seems to me to be impossible. Not just losing my attraction for women, but gaining one for men.

    If I twisted myself that far, I'd break.

    So why would it be different for homosexuals?

    It's a trial for them, and a constant challenge, but they are called to chastity, just as unmarried heterosexuals are.

    And that's enough for God. Why wouldn't it be enough for anyone else?

    The only release they need is God's forgiveness, and their faith in Him. His Church is for sinners trying to do avoid sinning. If you have no sin, you have no need of His Church.
     
  13. Derek1234

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    Ms Heche alleges that she has had a very abusive childhood. Although some or all of what she alleges is contested by her family, we should cut her a lot of slack.
     
  14. Quartermaine

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    You do realize that Ms. Heche is bisexual don't you?
     
  15. Quartermaine

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    You don't think it possible for someone to live a lie for 20 years?
     
  16. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    It's entirely possible. I also believe it's possible for people to change. To grow or to degenerate.
     
  17. The Barbarian

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    The world is full of people who tried to just change and "be normal." And most of them eventually failed. Instead of one life messed up, they messed up at least two. We don't have any way to figure out how many of them succeeded in spite of themselves and kept the secret their whole lives.

    Or what the cost of that might have been to them and their families.
     
  18. Quartermaine

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    The cost was and will always be to high
     
  19. Carl Emerson

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    Hey - isn't that true of anything really good ?

    The real deal doesn't come cheap.
     
  20. The Barbarian

    The Barbarian Crabby Old White Guy

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    And of a lot of really bad stuff. In fact, the really bad stuff comes with the highest price.
     
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