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Discussion in 'Christian Advice' started by -HisGirl-, May 24, 2017.

  1. -HisGirl-

    -HisGirl- New Member

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    I don't really know what to say other than I'm about to give up on God because I feel he has not chosen me and I'm not good enough for him. No matter what scriptures I read and no matter what people tell me, for some reason it doesn't change my mind. I have kind of accepted the fact that I will go to hell. It's not a good feeling and I've been crying almost all night thinking about it. I wish I could be close to God but I don't think he wants that.

    When I try and seek God...nothing. And then people tell me I'm trying to hard that's why or I have too high of expectations. Then I stop trying so hard and lower my standards then fall away from God. It's like there's no medium. It kind of feels like I'm being tortured for something I did in a past life. I don't believe in past lives but that's the best way I can portray how I'm feeling.

    At this point I wish I was never born. Whenever I read about the straight and narrow or that only a few will go to heaven and the rest to hell I can just picture myself burning forever. The other day I got into a bath that was too hot. And I sat in it wondering if this is how I'll feel when I'm in hell. It's really scary and my mind is being tortured constantly. But now I just accept that as my fate.

    I feel God doesn't want me so what's the point of trying. And I know everyone's gonna say anything that goes against the Bible is of the devil, and I know that. But you try having these thoughts fill your mind everyday. You try having a relationship with God and not getting anywhere. The things God asks of us I can't do. I try but I don't succeed. I guess I'm just one that will never make it. I've been suppressing these feeling for so long because I wanted God so bad and I wanted to believe God wanted me but I'm just not chosen and that sucks.
     
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  2. Galatea

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    I know there are people who will naysay me. But I really believe they are wrong and are preaching a works salvation which is not the gospel.

    You're getting close to the truth. You can not do or be good enough, period. This might sound scary at first, but think about it- if God does not demand you to DO anything, but to allow Him to do the doing, it is rest and peace. The peace that passes understanding as the Bible says.

    The gospel is only one thing: believing. If you believe in your heart that Jesus died for your sins and rose again and confess with your mouth, you will be saved.

    Jesus said we have to be like children- have childlike faith. Have you ever been around children? They can't DO much at all. They are completely dependent on their parents to supply their needs. Yet, children with good parents (godly or ungodly) don't worry about what to eat or whether or not they have clothes or somewhere to live. They simply have faith.

    That is all. For by grace are we saved through faith, not of works lest anyone should boast. He is a prayer away.

    He is not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL might be saved.

    God bless you.
     
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  3. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It's true, you aren't good enough. None of us are. We can't earn our way into his favor. That's the entire point of why Jesus came here among us to suffer and die for us. He did it purely out of love for us...love for YOU.

    I like to think of it this way. I love puppies. They're cute, they're adorable, but they do bad things sometimes like chew up all the furniture. Do I suddenly stop loving them because they chewed the furniture even though I already knew they would do it just because they are puppies and chew on things? Do the puppies need to do things for me to earn my favor, or do I love them simply because they exist and they are pleasing to me? (Despite having chewed up the furniture.)

    God feels that way about us, though his love is far more than we can feel for a puppy. We are God's creation and he loves us because he created us and we exist and he is God. He's always reaching out for a relationship with us and he wants us to love him back, but he also gave us free will, so we have the choice whether or not we accept that love, that gift of his grace and forgiveness.

    You may not always *feel* these things emotionally, but it doesn't mean that God's love isn't there or that he has abandoned you. He's the only one who will never abandon us.
     
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  4. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What makes you think you are not close to God?
     
  5. ImAllLikeOkWaitWat

    ImAllLikeOkWaitWat For who can resist his will?

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    I think you need to specify what exactly you want God to do for you. Is it something like happiness, peace, knowledge he exists? I read the whole op but it wasn't really clear what you wanted God to do except you said you just don't feel part of the elect of God. Also if you could explain further why you feel that way it would help me give you better advice.

    I know a lot of people on this forum and across the globe deal with doubt and frustration with God. And these things are normal. I'd call em babes in Christ. And through time they will mature in their faith and trust in God. You can't do this overnight and you need to be more realistic and give yourself more time. Yes there are people who genuinely experience God on a day to day basis, and have a tremendous relationship, but they weren't born with a relationship with God. Through prayer, reading scripture, believing every jot and tittle you come to know God. But if you struggle with believing everything in Gods word, then you will struggle in the faith. Begin by practicing faith in his word. When you read a section of scripture, really soak it in and believe every word, because it is true indeed. Some times we need to practice good faith, and pray to God that you want to believe, you just need help. He will surely answer that prayer as soon as possible I can guarantee you that much. He wants everyone to believe, and know him.
     
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  6. Thir7ySev3n

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    Listen to the exceptional responses of those before me. I would add that it is important NOT to gauge your closeness to God or His love for you by your feelings rather than His words and actions. In His Word He declares unfailing love for you, and in His actions He demonstrates it perfectly in what He was willing to pay to redeem you. As the Scriptures proclaim:

    "You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!" (Romans 5:6-10)

    "All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day." (John 6:37-40)

    What needs to be recognized is that our emotions and mental states are not always consistent with the truth, but can and have many times in our lives been mistaken. Emotions and mental states are merely our heart's and mind's response to what we perceive, and themselves are only profitable insofar as they are humbly applied to apprehend truth and not to attempt to fabricate it. If you understand this it should be a great encouragement to you, because it means you can rely on the unchanging Word and nature of God rather than fickle thoughts and feelings about where you are and where you can hope to be, because "God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? (Numbers 23:19)"
     
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  7. -HisGirl-

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    I guess I would say I want to truly believe God exists. Like I want him to give me that revelation because I don't think I really believe In him like I say I do. I've also never truly believed that God loves me, I've never experienced his love for me. I don't know its hard to explain. I know its true, I know God exists but I don't know it in my heart. I don't know if that makes sense.
     
  8. -HisGirl-

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    Ok but you cant really believe if you have had no experience with it. If I've never encountered God, I will not have true belief.
     
  9. -HisGirl-

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    I haven't read his word/prayed for a couple weeks. I just know I'm not. And I definitely don't know that saved, that's for sure.
     
  10. mukk_in

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    Cheer up honey, He loves you more than you know. Many years ago when I was feeling that way, I received the verse "When my life was ebbing away I remembered you...." (Jonah 2:7). This was the Lord Jesus telling me that He remembered me (before I was even born) when His life was ebbing away on the cross. Since then, I've never been depressed (tired, but not down). He remembered you on the cross too. Rise and shine child, for your Father loves you :) God bless :).
     
  11. Kenny'sID

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    OK, that helps a lot, none of us necessarily get that. I stopped considering the question, and who knows exactly why, but some of it was pure logic...Like I tell the evolutionists/Athiests here that are so fond of me, their general explanation of it all is ridiculous, and from a logical standpoint.

    As someone mentioned, don't go so much by feelings, just go by the simple plan that he's set up to get yourself saved, and do the things he requires of us, and then just "keep the faith". IOW, just do like he/the Bible says you should. Some don't think so but I have no doubt there are things we must do, the bible is very specific about it, but it's all in there, and not that complicated.

    Lately, even at my age, I catch myself thinking there might be a problem, then I quickly tell myself to calm down, your doing fine, nothing has changed, and I do. But it's probably a good thing that happens, keeps me awake/on my toes.

    You're so young, and I think that's probably the main reason you feel as you do....takes time.

    Like the verse goes "Be still and know that I am God"

    He is God, he's a logical God, he's a lot like us, as were are in his image. He's given us simple and for the most part, easily understood things to do to get saved, and stay in his good graces.

    It's like bargain, and "bargain" may even be a definition of Covenant, hence it would be exactly that. We hold up our end and we can trust him to hold up to his, and no need to expect much more, which may be what is confusing things.

    Just love him because of all that, and for giving us a darned good deal...a real bargain. :)
     
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  12. God is good

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    God loves you so much, I have dealt with not feeling God's love for me but I know that God does love me, look to Jesus Christ, his death and resurrection show God's love for all of us. Please pray for me and I'll pray for you. God bless you
     
  13. DeerGlow

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    I can relate to the feelings. Still, can't totally give up, as long as I'm alive I will have to struggle with this. Although why wouldn't you be chosen?
     
  14. bettercallpaul

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    Sometimes I feel like Christian advice becomes clichéd on here, so would like to give you my perspective from Buddhism.
    I am not familiar enough with the scriptures to point you in the right direction anyway.
    Ok here goes.
    Your thoughts are out of control. One negative thought leads to another. its like a snowballing effect. What started out as one simple negative. "God doesn t love me" has attracted all these others.
    So my advice is nip it in the bud. You've gone from feeling bad to feeling almost suicidal.
    In the morning, when you wake up, say a gratitude prayer. "Thank you Lord for a nice sleep".
    Try to build some self-discipline during the day. When you notice a negative thought, catch it right away. Say a rote prayer perhaps like the Our Father each time. that's just one idea.
    I really believe you can have a positive relationship with God. If I can, anyone can.
     
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  15. cuja1

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    I felt the same way for years. I think sometimes there are things that God is trying to teach us and sometimes it takes years to learn it.

    Now I think He is teaching me about how serious sin is.

    My only advice is to keep praying and ask God for faith, truth, wisdom, and salvation (among anything else you want to talk to Him about)
     
  16. -HisGirl-

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    Thanks for the responses! I will be reading these over again and praying about everything. Thanks for the advice. I'm hoping to get out of this mindset...
     
  17. -HisGirl-

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    I feel ya. Well I don't really think I will amount to much, especially not to the degree needed for God to use me. Idk, I was having a conversation about predestination with a friend and its been messing with my mind after that.
     
  18. longwait

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    This is a phase what you are going through. I went through it myself. Its a passing one. You will come out of it. Just keep learning and searching.
     
  19. bekkilyn

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    If you look into many of the stories in the Bible, God most often used the people who were considered some of the "least" in their respective societies. David was the youngest and most "insignificant" of his brothers. Joseph was also the youngest in his family, but God made him great. Jacob (who became Israel) was the younger of the two brothers. The position of a son in a family was important in those days because they did not have the birthright of the elder son.

    Moses argued with God that he couldn't serve due to having a speech impediment.

    Daniel was a captive and a very young man when he was brought to Babylon, but became the Lord's prophet and the greatest of the wise men to the king, though he was a stranger in that land.

    It goes on with many more examples.

    Don't believe that God can't or wouldn't use you just because you have a belief that you aren't much.
     
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    God is not a product in which we expect a performance from: the Lord requires humility from us, which includes us to deny (disown) our own will; repent and own our sins; and submit to and rely upon His Word concerning Christ Jesus. The relationship between us and God is all about Him and His glory, and nothing about us! we must decrease and He is the one that must increase. Concerning your faith: faith comes only by hearing the Word of God, therefore if we lack faith, then we must more abundantly hear His Word. Concerning the circumstances in our life: Christ tells us we must carry our load (bear our cross); and the law of Christ is to bear one another's burdens. If you have been faithful in making the sincere effort to do these things you will also come to learn that in whatsoever state you are in to be content. We are told by Christ to count the cost of following Him; He tells us this so that we do not begin to be deceived into thinking that nothing is required of us. Consider your ways: the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
     
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