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Featured On demand abortion is murder

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by redleghunter, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Yes

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  1. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    This covers that:
    Who Else Want's To Know God's Will?
     
  2. redleghunter

    redleghunter Thank You Jesus! Supporter

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    God never changes. True or false?
     
  3. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    If every human was identical, this might solve the problem you have with God's law written on different hearts.

    1 Corinthians 4
    5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.

    Ezekiel 11
    19 And I will give them one heart, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh,
     
  4. RaymondG

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    Dust and man are not images of God.....The spirit is.... And you cannot kill the spirit. This thread is about killing man, not God or His images.

    The question still stands.....does the spirit enter the man at conception or with the breath. If at conception, then a soul is being detached from its body and murder would be more of an understandable term. Again, please reason without emotions or accusations...or not at all.
     
  5. RaymondG

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    I find it unwise to exclaim that a woman should give her life in a situation that you have no possibility of being in.
     
  6. Pedra

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    The scriptures you post don't validate your unscriptural views. I am afraid that you have only made a god in your own image, rather then submitting to the heavenly Father God who reveals Himself through His Word. Your spiritual beliefs are new agey not at all Biblical.
     
  7. SkyWriting

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    Nope. My ideas come from scripture and are only a few weeks old.
    But you are welcome to be afraid. I r scary.
    I've never been impressed with New Age ideas. "Human potential" to be God is Hogwash. I hold that Jesus personally evaluates every heart and The Father even plans and executes the orbit of every electron in the Cosmos. Most Fundies don't go that far right. I get that from scripture.
     
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  8. SkyWriting

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    God's Spirit is provided to humans during the planning stages of God's creation and is integrated into the physical being. God has planned everything.
     
  9. Sojourner1

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    If a child is alive in the womb and not dead, then I think the Scriptures would support the belief that the baby in the womb has a spirit:

    Job 3:11 "Why did I not perish at birth, and die as I came from the womb?"

    James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
     
  10. Pedra

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    What you have is spiritual blindness and are self-deceived. You deny the God of the Bible & oppose the Lord Jesus's teachings. Believers share foundational doctrines but you don't share them.
     
  11. SkyWriting

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    If I can "trick you" into reading scripture, my job is done.

    "Paul Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists ad hominem as the second lowest type of argument in a disagreement.
    Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

    However, its original meaning was an argument "calculated to appeal to the person addressed more than to impartial reason".[5]
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    Ad hominem - Wikipedia

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  12. RaymondG

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    But what man calls alive is not always what God called alive. "Let the dead bury the dead."

    When God formed adam from the dust off the ground......was he alive after being formed.....or after receiving the breath of life?
     
  13. Hazelelponi

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    Luke 1:44

    "As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy."

    hearing, recognition and emotion from within the womb...
     
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  14. SkyWriting

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    But back to the content of my posts:

    1 Peter 2,13-17
    Titus 3,1
    1 Timothy 2,1-3

    Psalms 22:28
    Daniel 2:20-21
    Romans 13,7
    1 Timothy 2,1-2

    Deuteronomy 16:18-20
    Revelation 1,5
    Romans 13,4
    Proverbs 21,1

    John 19,11
    Mark 3,24
    Proverbs 8,15


    Deuteronomy 28,1-68
    Daniel 2:21
    John 19,10-11
     
  15. redleghunter

    redleghunter Thank You Jesus! Supporter

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    It’s not accusations.

    We are human beings at conception. That’s a scientific fact.

    Human beings without souls in the Bible are dead.

    We are not dead in the womb.

    No math necessary.
     
  16. Sojourner1

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    I believe that Adam’s creation was unique and shouldn’t be used as evidence that the spirit doesn’t enter into a child until they are physically born and breath the air. When Jesus spoke about the dead burying the dead I think He was probably referring to those spiritually separated from God.

    Another verse that came to my mind regarding a child in the womb having a spirit was, “And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.”
    ‭‭Luke‬ ‭1:41‬
     
  17. redleghunter

    redleghunter Thank You Jesus! Supporter

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    God’s Nature never bends to mankind’s wickedness.

    Or do you think God does not know the future and is still learning?
     
  18. SkyWriting

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    But back to the content and ignoring attacks:

    1 Peter 2,13-17
    Titus 3,1
    1 Timothy 2,1-3

    Psalms 22:28
    Daniel 2:20-21
    Romans 13,7
    1 Timothy 2,1-2

    Deuteronomy 16:18-20
    Revelation 1,5
    Romans 13,4
    Proverbs 21,1

    John 19,11
    Mark 3:24
    Proverbs 8:15


    Deuteronomy 28,1-68
    Daniel 2:21
    John 19,10-11

    Once you allow these scriptures, then abortion is not murder. Not in my state anyway.
     
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  19. SkyWriting

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    God plans and executes every electron in it's cloud.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Sojourner1

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