This is where we disagree. You did not establish context, you just quoted a bunch of verses.
Let's look at the context.
2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
We do indeed disagree. You have not established context at all. Saying I have not established CONTEXT when I you have been shown through God's WORD that the CONTEXT of the chapter is the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC Book of the COVENANT, and not the 10 Commandments is not being honest.
Let's look at the context again, maybe you missed it...
KEY SCRIPTURE COL 2:11-17
COLOSIANS 2 [11], In whom also you are
circumcised with the
circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the
circumcision of Christ:[12],
Buried with him in baptism, in which also you are risen with him through the faith of the working of God, who has raised him from the dead. [13
],
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, has he made alive together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; [14],
Blotting out the
HANDWRITING of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; [15], And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. [16], Let no man therefore judge you in
food, or in drink, or in respect of a
holy day, or of the
new moon, or of the sabbath days: [17], Which are a
SHADOW of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
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LINKING THE OLD WITH THE NEW
V11.
SHADOWS of the
CEREMONIAL ORDINANCE of CIRCUMCISION pointing to CIRCUMCISION
of the HEART MADE WITHOUT HANDS by the CIRCUMCISION of Christ.
FORTOLD IN THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES….
DEUTERONOMY 30 [6] And the LORD your God will
CIRCUMCISE YOUR HEART AND THE HEART OF YOUR DECENDENCE, TO LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITHYOU’RE YOUR SOUL, THAT YOU MAY LIVE.
JEREMIAH 4 [4]
CIRCUMCISE YOURSELF TO THE LORD, AND TAKE AWAY THE FORESKINS OF YOUR HEART, you men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
DEUTERONOMY 10 [16]
CIRCUMCISE therefore THE FORESKIN OF YOUR HEART, and be no more stiff-necked.
For example the CONTEXT of COL 2 is the NEW COVENANT FULFILLMENT of the SHADOWS of the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCE of CIRCUMCISION pointing the CIRCUMCISION of the HEART through faith in Christ…
ROMANS 2 [25] For circumcision verily profits, if you keep the law: but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision is made uncircumcision. [26], Therefore if the uncircumcision keeps the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? [27], And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfils the law, judge you, who by the letter and circumcision do transgress the law? [28],
FOR HE IS NOT A JEW, WHO IS ONE; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OF THE OUTWARD FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; AND CIRCUMCISION IS THAT OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT AND NOT IN THE LETTER; WHOSE PRAISE IS NOT OF MEN BUT OF GOD.
1 CORITHIANS 7 [19]
CIRCUMCISION IS NOTHING, AND UNCIRCUMCISION IS NOTHING, BUT THE KEEPING OF THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
This is the operation of GOD in the NEW COVENANT…
HEBREWS 8 [10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord;
I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS, AND WRITE THEM IN THEIR HEARTS: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
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CONCLUSION; The CEREMONIAL ORDINANCE of CIRCUMCISION is a Shadow law from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT pointing to a NEW HEART to LOVE and OBEY GOD in the NEW COVENANT. The SHADOW laws of the OLD COVENANT that are REPLACED CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES of CIRCUMCISION from the Mosaic BOOK of the Covenant are the within CHAPTER CONTEXT BEFORE COL 2:14
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We have looked at v11-17 for CONTEXT in general. Now let's look at the GREEK of v14 in detail..
COLOSIANS 2 [14], Blotting out the HANDWRITING of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
GREEK WORD MEANINGS AND WORD USE
v14,
“BLOTTING OUT” < G1813 ἐξαλείφωexaleipho (
ex-a-lei'-fō)
v. means to rub out, i.e. obliterate, erase>the “
HANDWRITING” < G5498 χειρόγραφονcheirographon (chei-ro'-gra-fon)
n. means something hand-written (“chirograph”),
a manuscript specially, a legal document > of
“ORDINANCES” < G1378 δόγμα
dogma (
d̮og'-ma)
n. means ordinance;
CIVIL, CEREMONIAL or ECCLIESIASTICAL laws >that was against us, WHICH WERE AGAINST , and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
The GREEK WORD meanings here in this scripture show that it follows the same CONTEXT of v11-13 is in relation to the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES found in the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT.
V14 Blotting out or erasing the legal
MANUSCRIPT or document of
ORDINANCES referred to here are those of the
CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES from the
MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT. The GREEK word for
ORDIANACE is DOGMA mean ing
THE CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL ORDINANCES once again only found in the
MOSAIC BOOK of the Covenant
What is being REPLACED in the NEW COVANANT is the
CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL laws and
ORDINANCES
This scripture cannot be referring to the abolishing of the 10 commandments of God’s LAW as God’s 10 Commandments are not
CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL laws written in a manuscript
and the CONTEXT is the CEREMONIAL Shadow laws of CIRCUMCISION, and the Jewish ANNUAL feast days and annual sabbaths of LEV 23 and NEW MOONS.
God's LAW is not written in a MANUSCRIPT they are written on two tables of stone (Exodus 31:18). The chapter CONTEXT is in reference to the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES of CIRCUMCISION once again from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT. These were all SHADOWS and ORDINANCES OF the Mosaic BOOK of the Covenant v17 pointing to Christ and the plan of SALVATION.
ORDINANCES that were against us is referring also to the PENALTY of SIN (breaking God’s Commandments and the ORDINANCES of curses written once again in the MOSAIC BOOK of the Covenant.
DEUT 31 [26]
TAKE THIS BOOK OF THE LAW, and put it in the side of the ark of the COVENANT of the LORD your God, that it may be there
FOR A WITNESS AGAINST THEE.
DEUT 29 [21] And the LORD shall separate him unto evil out of all the tribes of Israel,
ACCORDING TO ALL THE CURSES OF THE COVENANT that are WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW.
(See the list of ORDINACES for curses of breaking Gods’ Law in DEUTERONOMY 28:15-68)
CONCLUSION; COL 2:14 is talking about the CIVIL CEREMONIAL AND ECCLESIASTICAL ORDINANCES written in the MOSIAC BOOK of the Covenant which are SHADOW laws pointing to Jesus and God’s plan of SALVATION. This is supported also by the within CHAPTER CONTEXT and SUBJECT matter of v16 which are all CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES written in the MOCAIC BOOK of the COVENANT and
not referring to ABOLISHING God’s 10 Commandments.
LoveGodsWord said
The GREEK word for ORDIANACE is DOGMA mean ing THE CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL ORDINANCES once again only found in the MOSAIC BOOK of the Covenant
The Hebrew word for ordinances is H2706
King James Bible Strongs Numbers
Notice all the various times it is used. It is even used of the everlasting covenant.
We are discussing the GREEK word for ORDINANCE of COL 2 which has the CONTEXT of the MOSIAC SHADOW laws of the BOOK of the COVENANT. The CONTEXT determines the meaning on how the GREEK or HEBREW Word meanings are applied in the individual scripture they are used in. Therefore the Chapter and within scripture CONTEXT is important to application and meaning.
Hope this helps...
