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Okay I've been wanting to ask a Calvinist this for a while

Discussion in 'Ask a Calvinist' started by DevastatedNate, Nov 29, 2021.

  1. DevastatedNate

    DevastatedNate New Member

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    So I'm a vessel of wrath and have commited the unpardonable sin. I'm being severely punished by God while I'm still alive. My life is utter misery and has been for the better part of the year.

    So here is my question: assuming what I've stated above is true, what do I do with my life? I can't truly repent even though in my flesh I'm abstaing from sin the best I can but it's BRUTAL! Should I continue with this and just bless as many people as I can with kindness and gifts, and be as merciful to people as I can? Maybe my punishment in Hell will be a little less?
     
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  2. Carl Emerson

    Carl Emerson Well-Known Member

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    How do you know?
     
  3. The Righterzpen

    The Righterzpen Jesus is my Shield in any Desert or Storm

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    People who really have committed the unpardonable sin don't worry about whether or not they have!

    And I'm going to be flat out blunt here. What are you abstaining from; porn addiction and masturbation? There's a lot of people who seem to think they've committed the "unpardonable sin"; but in talking to them, I often find their perceptions of their own wickedness is.... out of proportion, to say the least.

    People who've committed the unpardonable sin don't want Christ as their Savior in the first place. That's why they don't worry about whether or not they've committed it!

    They may even know what it is. They just don't care!
     
  4. Vince53

    Vince53 Junior Member

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    I advise you to cast off the gloomy chains of John Calvin and come to Christ.
     
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  5. Oscarr

    Oscarr Senior Veteran Supporter

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    I have taken the time to read Calvin's commentaries on John, I John, Romans, 1 Corinthians, and Acts (so far) and I haven't seen any of what is being described as originating from him. There is a lot of rubbish taught in the name of John Calvin by people who have never taken the time to actually read his commentaries.
     
  6. Peter J Barban

    Peter J Barban Well-Known Member

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    As a teacher, before I answer a student's question, I ask them what they think the answer is. Based on their reply, I guide them into the answer.

    So, what do you think is the answer to your questions, the stated and the unstated.
     
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  7. Oscarr

    Oscarr Senior Veteran Supporter

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    I don't know which is the quote and which is your answer.
     
  8. Peter J Barban

    Peter J Barban Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I have now fixed it.
     
  9. Tolworth John

    Tolworth John Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It is not true. God does not automaticly punish people in this life.

    You need to present evidence that your suffering is directly related to your act or acts of sin.

    What should you do. as 1John1:9 say God is faithful and Will forgive us our Sins.

    No Christian has or will commit the unpardonable sin.

    Only one sin cannot be forgiven and that is the sin of rejecting Jesus.
     
  10. NBB

    NBB Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Stop wasting time, take steps toward God, go to church (a good one "sprit filled"), ask for help with your spiritual issues please.

    I had thoughts similar to yours, they do not help at all, and this kind of thoughts are horrible, and displease God, Jesus died for us so we can be saved, this thougths makes God sad and probably scares the Holy spirit, stop it. He is a God of grace.

    In the end i learned it was all witchcraft and sorcery stuff that some evil person did to me, i even thought before that this kind of thing had no power, oh they do. But Jesus can solve all that.

    Praise the Lord, my soul;
    all my inmost being, praise his holy name.
    2 Praise the Lord, my soul,
    and forget not all his benefits—
    3 who forgives all your sins
    and heals all your diseases,
    4 who redeems your life from the pit
    and crowns you with love and compassion,
    5 who satisfies your desires with good things
    so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.

    6 The Lord works righteousness
    and justice for all the oppressed.

    7 He made known his ways to Moses,
    his deeds to the people of Israel:
    8 The Lord is compassionate and gracious,
    slow to anger, abounding in love.
    9 He will not always accuse,
    nor will he harbor his anger forever;
    10 he does not treat us as our sins deserve
    or repay us according to our iniquities.
    11 For as high as the heavens are above the earth,
    so great is his love for those who fear him;
    12 as far as the east is from the west,
    so far has he removed our transgressions from us.

    13 As a father has compassion on his children,
    so the Lord has compassion on those who fear him;
    14 for he knows how we are formed,
    he remembers that we are dust.
    15 The life of mortals is like grass,
    they flourish like a flower of the field;
    16 the wind blows over it and it is gone,
    and its place remembers it no more.
    17 But from everlasting to everlasting
    the Lord’s love is with those who fear him,
    and his righteousness with their children’s children—
    18 with those who keep his covenant
    and remember to obey his precepts.
     
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  11. DevastatedNate

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    Okay so I posted my whole story in another thread several days ago buts it's long, so I'll give you a tidbit of the story as my evidence. I realize that my statement cannot be 100 percent determined as truth but based on my subjective experience with it, I have little doubt. BTW, thank you and others for being encouraging in your responses.

    So now the tidbit: So I spent a large chunk of my adult life as a vile militant atheist and I've not only said and thought atrocities against God and Christians but I was sold into with my heart. I feel I did worse than the Pharisees did when Christ warned them of Blasheming the Holy Spirit. Hell is what drove me away into Atheism because I couldn't bare the idea of my Dad amd others being there. What I spoke from my mouth amd heart was evil amd Blasphemous for years.
    So fast forward till earlier this year, (now remember I've never been saved nor did I believe in God) and I had a heart attack. I knew it was one because I had had one prior but this time was different. As I felt the symptoms I noticed my feet began to burn, hot like being afew inches from a wood stove and it began crawling up towards my knees. I then began to see a lake of fire forming from seemingly nowhere out in front of my eyes; there were people bobbing up and down as it moved a bit like an ocean.

    It appeared it was contained in a cavernous place, the walls and ceiling red in color. I then knew what was happening and was over taken by sheer terror, naturally. Them the remarkable happens; a cross decends from above and gently floats back and forth and a voice audibly spoke to me, not in my head but audibly. It said "I died for you". This voice was calm yet firm. So after being ambulated to the hospital and treatment, I got back home. Maybe 3 weeks later I began to hear strange noisy but somehow macabre like druid/middle age Catholic choir like chanting and singing that comes from outside me in the environment and is still there and never stops amd sounds soooo foreboding and is maddening.

    Now I want to say I've never been mentally ill, as I was so happy all my life and level headed, no belief in ghosts or demons. Still don't believe in ghosts but I do demons. At one point before the sounds started when I'd text a friend something innocuous like "my truck battery is dead" my auto correct would replace it with "my punishment". I wouldn't even notice until they replied "huh!?"

    Now I know that last part is a bit iffy but I found its timing very odd. To this day I'm a mess because this incessant tormenting sound never let's me have rest, ever. I do attend church but no affect. I've tried deliverance menisters etc.. now most family thinks I'm a pyschiatric case but I know it's not that.
     
  12. NBB

    NBB Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What church do you attend? some deliverance ministers may not have enough discerment for some things. Like it actuallly happened to me, i had to deal myself with some things with the help of God, because nobody believed me, did you tried several of them in different circles?

    The devil torments, not God.

    Forget about lessening the torments of hell and all that brother, those thoughts are bad, i actually had similar thoughts, you want to reconcile yourself with God.

    I heard some kind of chanting too in one of my 'episodes', also felt my soul being tormented in a indescpitble pain to what it would seem was hell fire, it was actually an evil spirit.

    'Serpents, and scorpions' the bible says we can have authority over things like these.

    I was years tormented... God does not do that...

    I think i agree to what a lot of people would say, if you were really condemned you wouldn't care and God would not show you anything at all.
     
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  13. NBB

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    If you heard Jesus say audibly to you 'i died for you'.... Jesus is love and positive and prince of peace, like i said in the other post he would never tell you that to torment you. Heck no.
     
  14. com7fy8

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    So, feed on this, and Jesus on the cross is our example of how to become in His love >

    "And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

    Have hope for others > love "hopes all things" > in 1 Corinthians 13:7.

    That is a trick how your attention is being called only to or maybe mainly to your own self. If you have been wrong, offer yourself to God, for how He is able to do good with you. He is the only One worthy to be trusted to know what is really true about you and what He pleases to do with you; so, simply trust Him who is our good Judge.

    I would not trust that nasty and negative stuff.
     
  15. DevastatedNate

    DevastatedNate New Member

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    I'm unable to send pm on here. How do I do it? I click on the profile but I only see options to gift, follow etc.. no way to pm
     
  16. NBB

    NBB Well-Known Member Supporter

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    click profile and "start conversation"
     
  17. DevastatedNate

    DevastatedNate New Member

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    Could you send me a screen shot by any chance? I'm not seeing it.
     
  18. NBB

    NBB Well-Known Member Supporter

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    you click on the profile name and the option should be visible enough, unless: someone disabled pm's try different users to see if its there, or you maybe need certain amount of posts before doing it? i don't know.
     
  19. DevastatedNate

    DevastatedNate New Member

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    Okay I'll keep checking. BTW inwas attempting to pm you
     
  20. NBB

    NBB Well-Known Member Supporter

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    ok, i sent you 1
     
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