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Occupy Oakland: second Iraq war veteran injured by police

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Yoder777, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    Why don't you try and sell that to those who have been killed by the rubber bullets from police?
     
  2. whatbogsends

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    Remember, video taping police activity is "non-compliant" and "criminal" activity. However, unmanned drones monitoring your personal activity is just the police doing their job.
     
  3. Panzerkamfwagen

    Panzerkamfwagen Es braust unser Panzer im Sturmwind dahin.

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    No. What I think is that if you're in a riot, don't be surprised if you get some violence done to you, either by accident or by design.

    If they're peaceably assembled, why doesn't the cameraman show what the other protestors are doing in his footage? The only things that I can learn from that footage is that he's with a group of people that are out at night, shouting obscenities at the police, he paces along the line of police that are deployed in a riot control formation for some reason, and then he gets hit by a rubber bullet fired by a police officer.

    So there's a guy who's with a group of people at night who are pacing along a line of police that are deployed in a riot control formation, who are yelling obscenities at the police, and it just happens to be in an area where people have been rioting. Sounds like the classic recipe for a peaceful protest, doesn't it?
     
  4. Ishraqiyun

    Ishraqiyun Fanning the Divine Spark

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    Conservatives always rush to the defense of big brother when the victim is part of a class or group they don't like. In fact they seem to idolize the armed enforcement wing of government - the cops. The idea that conservatives are opposed to government / big brother is just a myth. They are statists just like the democrats they stick the label too. They just idolize the wing of the government that gets to carry guns and crack skulls like the police and military.
     
  5. Panzerkamfwagen

    Panzerkamfwagen Es braust unser Panzer im Sturmwind dahin.

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    Or maybe someone is trying to make himself like like a victim of the police.
     
  6. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    No. His post was spot on. Your attempts to defend the cop's actions look like a hummingbird trying to change the direction of a hurricane.

    When cops illegally removed cindy sheehan because of a shirt she was wearing your camp cheered it for weeks but if it had been a pro war person you would have screamed liberal fascism. That is just one example.
     
  7. stamperben

    stamperben It's an old family tradition

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    Experts in police use of force shocked by Oakland video

     
  8. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    The question is: what can we do about it?
     
  9. allhart

    allhart Messianic believer

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    This is a bunch of garbage. The mayor giving all public SERVANTS a day off and permission to protest and told the police, try to keep the peace. All the while they are all union but demonize the police dept when the Fire dept. BBQ's for the protesters. What insanity. A family friend of ours as a police officer was dispatched to the protest in oakland and was on duty 72 hours. I would have said screw Oakland.... I wouldn't jeopardize my well being when city officials and its citizens are set on destroying itself.
     
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  10. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    Is there a Gerber translator available?
     
  11. allhart

    allhart Messianic believer

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    So what is your intent on in insulting me.....? why because you don't like my point of view? Mostly this is why I haven't responded on these forums of late. So are u holier than tho as u condemn Christian role models and those that want personal responsibility as law biding citizens.
     
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  12. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    I responded to the post and not the poster. It made no sense.
     
  13. allhart

    allhart Messianic believer

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    Really! Lol
     
  14. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    Yes, really. The post read to me as incoherent whining without addressing any of the facts.
     
  15. mpok1519

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    you realize, you, being a veteran, fought for the rights so people can protest, yknow? Peacefully assembling isn't a criminal protest dude.
     
  16. mpok1519

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    So, if the "perp" did some jumping jacks, he wouldn't have been assaulted by the cops?

    I mean, jumping jacks is moving.
     
  17. MachZer0

    MachZer0 Caught Between Barack and a Hard Place

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    If a cop told you to move, would you start doing jumping jacks? If you ever get in that situation, let me know how it works out.
     
  18. mpok1519

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    your defending these jackbooted thugs like a real statist bootlicker would; he was videotaping, at a wide distance; if some cop yelled out some stupid, muffled, incoherent instructions through their gas masks, its his fault for not being able to hear it?
     
  19. mpok1519

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    And what bull-crap evidence do you have to support this nonsense?

    I never was shot for doing that. Infact, its perfectly within your rights to yell at police things like "Thug!" "Fascist!" and "pig!" at a protest.

    What about this is violent? What about this warrants shooting someone? He was video taping the police line; he was documenting reality. He was recording history.

    What about that is so bad? The police are just paranoid idiots from what we can tell.

    Words aren't violence. Shooting someone using words, however, IS violence.

    What kind of brainless moron thinks words are violence to justify police brutality?
     
  20. mpok1519

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    If a cop yells move, I would ask him "where to?".
     
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