Obama says 'white resistance and resentment' stopped him from pushing for reparations

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We have already been saved.....you ever go to Sunday School as a kid?
Of course not. Sunday school was never a thing in my country, really.

But before you were saved you were a sinner by default due to Adam and Eve eating the fruit of knowledge, correct?
 
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It's totally unjust to make the grand children pay for the sins of the grandparents.
Unless it's Adam, of course.
But before you were saved you were a sinner by default due to Adam and Eve eating the fruit of knowledge, correct?
We don't pay for Adam's sin....we weren't there, Adam was.....we did not disobey God, Adam did.....therefore Adam pays for his own sin. However, because of Adam we have inherited a sinful nature; a nature of disobedience which causes us to sin in the eyes of God. So, we pay for our own sins unless, of course, you believe in Jesus Christ who took the punishment for those sins upon himself. Through our belief we have been made righteous in the eyes of God. So yes we all were once sinners, and yes because of Adam, but no we don't pay for his sins.
 
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We don't pay for Adam's sin....we weren't there, Adam was.....we did not disobey God, Adam did.....therefore Adam pays for his own sin. However, because of Adam we have inherited a sinful nature; a nature of disobedience which causes us to sin in the eyes of God. So, we pay for our own sins unless, of course, you believe in Jesus Christ who took the punishment for those sins upon himself. Through our belief we have been made righteous in the eyes of God. So yes we all were once sinners, and yes because of Adam, but no we don't pay for his sins.
Oh come on. If Adam had not done a naughty thing and we got the blame handed down Jesus' sacrifice would have been unnecessary.
 
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Oh come on. If Adam had not done a naughty thing and we got the blame handed down Jesus' sacrifice would have been unnecessary.

We wouldn't have inhereted a sin nature. But it cannot be argued that we are punished for Adams sin. Each one of us answers for our own. Every choice you make is a choice. You won't be able to tell God you are being judged for Adams sin. Cause he will just point to all the sinful things you CHOSE to do throughout your life.
 
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Oh come on. If Adam had not done a naughty thing and we got the blame handed down Jesus' sacrifice would have been unnecessary.
So now you are taking the 'what if' road. Try using the 'what happened' road since that is the world we live in.....
 
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So now you are taking the 'what if' road. Try using the 'what happened' road since that is the world we live in.....
Then the sins of Adam were inherited. Which was my point that you disputed.
 
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Cause he will just point to all the sinful things you CHOSE to do throughout your life.
And I would reply that he caused this whole sin problem by refusing to be flexible on what he decides is a sin and what isn't.
 
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And I would reply that he caused this whole sin problem by refusing to be flexible on what he decides is a sin and what isn't.
So what, you want to negotiate with God?......LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.....oh, my stomach hurts after that one....LOLOLOL......
 
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And I would reply that he caused this whole sin problem by refusing to be flexible on what he decides is a sin and what isn't.
Why don't you go open a thread on that one and just stick to the OP in this one.....
 
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