NY Times bombshell report blows up in their face. Again

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The Times in the story published Saturday reported a former classmate of Kavanaugh's named Max Stier said he witnessed the now-justice expose himself and force a female classmate to touch his penis at a dorm party. The Times said it corroborated the story with two other officials who had heard the same report from Steir


However, the woman involved in the alleged incident did not speak to the Times and, according to the correction, her friends say she does not recall that it happened.


New York Times issues correction on Kavanaugh story

They lied for the express purpose to damage the reputation of a Supreme Court Justice
 

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The Times in the story published Saturday reported a former classmate of Kavanaugh's named Max Stier said he witnessed the now-justice expose himself and force a female classmate to touch his penis at a dorm party. The Times said it corroborated the story with two other officials who had heard the same report from Steir


However, the woman involved in the alleged incident did not speak to the Times and, according to the correction, her friends say she does not recall that it happened.


New York Times issues correction on Kavanaugh story

They lied for the express purpose to damage the reputation of a Supreme Court Justice
The most pathetic thing about this hoax may be that most of the leading Democrat candidates for President in 2020 immediately called for the impeachment of Justice Kavanaugh, based on...nothing.

This crowd behaves more like the candidates in some high school student senate election than for president of the United States. :sigh:
 
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But the article you just gave us points out more than 1 has accused Kavanaugh.

"Another woman, Deborah Ramirez, last year accused Kavanaugh of exposing himself and forcing her to touch him during their freshman year at Yale during the 1983-84 school year. A third woman, Julie Swetnick, accused Kavanaugh of being part of a group that planned gang rapes of young women at house parties while in high school. Kavanaugh has denied all the allegations."
New York Times issues correction on Kavanaugh story

It's never that just one person makes an accusation that should make us wonder about someone.

It's when more than one person does.

Deuteronomy 19:15 ESV
“A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established."
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So, what's the prudent course? To investigate more fully. A report is not a full investigation, and does not pretend to be generally.

The Times in the story published Saturday reported a former classmate of Kavanaugh's named Max Stier said he witnessed the now-justice expose himself and force a female classmate to touch his penis at a dorm party. The Times said it corroborated the story with two other officials who had heard the same report from Steir


However, the woman involved in the alleged incident did not speak to the Times and, according to the correction, her friends say she does not recall that it happened.


New York Times issues correction on Kavanaugh story

They lied for the express purpose to damage the reputation of a Supreme Court Justice
 
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No matter. The Supreme Court will remain as it is unless RBG dies or is forced by failing health to resign.
RBG could remain for some time.

Realistically, we could lose any justice at any time. Life is more frail and precarious than many like to admit. Accidental death may not be likely, but male susceptibility to heart attacks is an ever-present possibility, as has happened recently for the court.
 
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Yes ... by definition ... the lying press lies.

Now, if we could just agree on which media and members of the media were prone to do so ...
Then?....

If you have omniscience that would help, right? Can't see your succeeding without it.

This is why our Constitution is better than such a plan: We are not God, to make such choices for others.
 
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Then?....
The difference between news and propaganda is that the purveyors of propaganda lie with abandon.

Know who lies with abandon ... you know who the purveyors of propaganda are.


People may still tune in to propaganda outlets. People often like fantasy. Most people know the difference though ... even in the old Soviet Union most people apparently knew that Pravda (Truth) was a fantasy journal.
 
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Yes ... by definition ... the lying press lies.

Now, if we could just agree on which media and members of the media were prone to do so ...
The New York Times on Monday added a correction to a report accusing Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct.

The correction notes that friends of the woman allegedly involved in the incident with Kavanaugh
during college say she does not recall it.

The Times in the story published Saturday reported a former classmate of Kavanaugh's named Max Stier said he witnessed the now-justice expose himself and force a female classmate to touch his penis at a dorm party. The Times said it corroborated the story with two other officials who had heard the same report from Stier.

I brain must be getting old. Where exactly is the lie? What was incorrect in the original article?
 
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However, the woman involved in the alleged incident did not speak to the Times and, according to the correction, her friends say she does not recall that it happened.

They lied for the express purpose to damage the reputation of a Supreme Court Justice
I'm not sure how this constitutes a lie - having no memory of events that occurred when you were very drunk is pretty common. She does not say that it didn't happen, just that she can't remember it.

That doesn't necessarily mean that it's true either, but it does make it worthy of investigation. Which the FBI did not do.
 
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The Times in the story published Saturday reported a former classmate of Kavanaugh's named Max Stier said he witnessed the now-justice expose himself and force a female classmate to touch his penis at a dorm party. The Times said it corroborated the story with two other officials who had heard the same report from Steir


However, the woman involved in the alleged incident did not speak to the Times and, according to the correction, her friends say she does not recall that it happened.


New York Times issues correction on Kavanaugh story

They lied for the express purpose to damage the reputation of a Supreme Court Justice

The retraction is about another woman, not the woman the article is about. The mention of the other woman was removed from the article - she was another student that a third student claimed to have seen be made to do what the article said she did. The second woman's name isn't given, the woman who is the focus of the article is Deborah Ramirez.
 
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I brain must be getting old. Where exactly is the lie? What was incorrect in the original article?

That Max Stier has any credibility, which Times is implying by even running the story.
 
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Who is he that you can say that he has no credibility?
He was Bill Clinton's defense attorney during the impeachment and represented Bill Clinton during other sexual assault trials as well. He also represented Hillary in some of her alleged misdeeds.

He lost most of those cases. He's now attempting to profit from what appear to be manufactured claims against Kavanaugh.
 
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He was Bill Clinton's defense attorney during the impeachment and represented Bill Clinton during other sexual assault trials as well. He also represented Hillary in some of her alleged misdeeds.

He lost most of those cases. He's now attempting to profit from what appear to be manufactured claims against Kavanaugh.
Oh, well that seems a little too convenient to me.
 
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Back to the topic of the thread

What should the consequences be for not properly vetting information?
Former MSNBC commentator Krystal Ball is this week considering "suing" Rush Limbaugh for slightly inaccurate comments he made about sexually provocative pictures she posted of herself in younger years on social media.

It seems Rush didn't get all the details correct. :doh:
 
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