NPR softly helps defend looting as "a powerful tool to bring about real, lasting change in society"

[98cwitr]

One Author's Argument 'In Defense Of Looting'

In the past months of demonstrations for Black lives, there has been a lot of hand-wringing about looting. Whether it was New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo saying that stealing purses and sneakers from high-end stores in Manhattan was "inexcusable," or St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter saying looters were "destroy[ing] our community," police officers, government officials and pundits alike have bemoaned the property damage and demanded an end to the riots. And just this week, rioters have burned buildings and looted stores in Kenosha, Wis., following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, to which Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson has said: "Peaceful protesting is a constitutionally protected form of free speech. Rioting is not."

https://www.wisn.com/article/buildi...-looted-amid-civil-unrest-in-kenosha/33792937

 

[Pommer]

Let’s see...years ago Mr Kaepernick did a silent, respectful protest and was lambasted by the President of the United States of America, for his troubles.

And nothing changed. And still black men are dying in police custody. Since “silent and respectful” didn’t change anything, what would one suppose might be “the next level”?

 

[98cwitr]

Let’s see...years ago Mr Kaepernick did a silent, respectful protest and was lambasted by the President of the United States of America, for his troubles.

And nothing changed. And still black men are dying in police custody. Since “silent and respectful” didn’t change anything, what would one suppose might be “the next level”?

class action lawsuits?

 

[Pommer]

class action lawsuits?

Against whom? For what? Would the class, if it were allowed, even have “standing”?

We cannot rely on the courts to settle matters of civil rights violations that occur in institutions that have qualified immunity.

We have to come together to work out (and it will be work), our differences.
Yes, violence is bad, horrible and goes against the established order (rule of law).

But if the rule of law is applied unequally, then that is an affront to justice.

 

[tbstor]

The problems being protested against are phantoms. There will never be any satisfaction.

 

[98cwitr]

Against whom? For what? Would the class, if it were allowed, even have “standing”?

We cannot rely on the courts to settle matters of civil rights violations that occur in institutions that have qualified immunity.

We have to come together to work out (and it will be work), our differences.
Yes, violence is bad, horrible and goes against the established order (rule of law).

But if the rule of law is applied unequally, then that is an affront to justice.

Against cops, for breaking the law they're charged to enforce, while throwing the book at violent offenders (including bad cops).

The law isn't applied unequally. It's applied inequitably. Equality means that the law is color blind, which it is. I challenge you to find me a law that takes into account the ethnicity of a person to apply an unfair judgement based on race.

 

[BobRyan]

One Author's Argument 'In Defense Of Looting'

that article ends this way ...

"Ultimately, what nonviolence ends up meaning is that the activist doesn't do anything that makes them feel violent. And I think getting free is messier than that. We have to be willing to do things that scare us and that we wouldn't do in normal, "peaceful" times, because we need to get free."

The appeal to violence is an appeal for martial law because that is where it must go. Why do that??

 

[ZNP]

The problems being protested against are phantoms. There will never be any satisfaction.

I don't know. True they lambasted Kaepernick by only offering him $14 million, no wonder he rejected that. But if San Francisco had offered him $20 million that would have been a respectful offer.

 

[ZNP]

class action lawsuits?

Great plan, if you don't offer to hire me for $20 million I'll sue. After all look at what he has done for their ratings. He hasn't just brought the ratings of the NFL to their knees, but also the ratings of the NBA. If they won't pay him $20 mill no one gets 20 mill.

 

[ZNP]

Since “silent and respectful” didn’t change anything, what would one suppose might be “the next level”?

Armed militias guarding stores from looting? Please note she said: When I use the word looting, I mean the mass expropriation of property, mass shoplifting during a moment of upheaval or riot. That's the thing I'm defending. I'm not defending any situation in which property is stolen by force. It's not a home invasion, either. It's about a certain kind of action that's taken during protests and riots.

She is being very clear, protestors robbing stores and businesses are good, but breaking into her home and robbing her is bad.

 

[essentialsaltes]

NPR interviews author of controversial book on a timely subject.

 

[Searching1God]

That was not an interview.
That was an opinion piece.
99.9% of opinion pieces on NPR are left wing pieces.
With such a clear bias, they should not be getting public funding.

 

[mala]

The problems being protested against are phantoms. There will never be any satisfaction.

not being terrorized by fascist cops is hardly a phantom unless that's something you want to happen to other people.

 

[Halbhh]

One Author's Argument 'In Defense Of Looting'

NPR is interviewing this author to let listeners hear for themselves from that author. WITHOUT ENDORSING THE AUTHOR.

They also interview very conservative authors.

You get it that NPR itself doesn't endorse any of the viewpoints of the writers they are interviewing?

They intentionally are not arguing with the writer, because the purpose is to elicit the writer's more full viewpoint.

NPR thinks YOU WILL JUDGE FOR YOURSELF the writer's ideas.

NPR isn't trying to do our thinking for us, but is trying to allow us to hear these diverse voices.

AND THEY INTERVIEW PEOPLE WELL ON THE RIGHT ALSO.

 

[Quartermaine]

Against cops, for breaking the law they're charged to enforce, while throwing the book at violent offenders (including bad cops).

in New York City in 2019 police killed 13 unarmed black men during routine traffic stops. Not one officer was prosecuted

The law isn't applied unequally. It's applied inequitably. Equality means that the law is color blind, which it is. I challenge you to find me a law that takes into account the ethnicity of a person to apply an unfair judgement based on race.

Racial profiling is technically illegal but the police still engage in it

 

[Quartermaine]

That was not an interview.
That was an opinion piece.
99.9% of opinion pieces on NPR are left wing pieces.
With such a clear bias, they should not be getting public funding.

you listen to NPR a great deal then?

 

[mala]

NPR is interviewing this author to let listeners hear for themselves from that author. WITHOUT ENDORSING THE AUTHOR.

They also interview very conservative authors.

You get it that NPR itself doesn't endorse any of the viewpoints of the writers they are interviewing?

They intentionally are not arguing with the writer, because the purpose is to elicit the writer's more full viewpoint.

NPR thinks YOU WILL JUDGE FOR YOURSELF the writer's ideas.

NPR isn't trying to do our thinking for us, but is trying to allow us to hear these diverse voices.

AND THEY INTERVIEW PEOPLE WELL ON THE RIGHT ALSO.

you do realize that a lot of these people probably watched fox news whose slogan was "we tell you what to decide!"

 

[Belk]

That was not an interview.
That was an opinion piece.
99.9% of opinion pieces on NPR are left wing pieces.
With such a clear bias, they should not be getting public funding.

According to what source?

 

[tbstor]

not being terrorized by fascist cops is hardly a phantom unless that's something you want to happen to other people.

The only terrorism happening is coming from activists in the streets.

 

[Searching1God]

you listen to NPR a great deal then?

I used to listen to them a lot more when I was into "progressige" politics and left wing. They were left leaning, but it was okay because most of the established media was right or center, so they provided an outlet to voices that were not easily heard.

Now that mainstream media has become left wing, they have remained left wing, thus not providing an outlet to voices that are not easily heard.